adding NOS to my 325i

[Green95Bimmer]

Im thinking of throwing some spray on my 95 325 to bump up the power a little while i build up my other engine for it. Does anyone have any experience with a single fogger wet system, something that wont blow a stock m50 up?

[IrishTarmac]

We don't really do that here...

[ptldM3]

Nos ftl

[arctic28]

Nos ftl

+1


(unless its to help spool up a turbo)

[eunit3357]

I remember one guy doing it from canada. He only did like a 50 shot but said it worked alight and he did not have to do any retard timing. Search you might find the post i believe it was a 325 also.

[GardenBeast]

i always wanted to NOS my car.... but then i realized that i would probably hit my "GO BABY GO" button, and die, or kill my engine.

[Paul NJ]

i always wanted to NOS my car.... but then i realized that i would probably hit my "GO BABY GO" button, and die, or kill my engine.

Gone in 60 seconds FTW!!

[happycamper]

i don't know no one here really has experience with it perhaps it would be a good idea go to over to the FI section i hear people are more friendly towards the performance aspect of these cars. unlike the e36 subforum where everyone just makes show cars and CAI threads

[GardenBeast]

i don't know no one here really has experience with it perhaps it would be a good idea go to over to the FI section i hear people are more friendly towards the performance aspect of these cars. unlike the e36 subforum where everyone just makes show cars and CAI threads

boy am i in the wrong section.... show car?

[Synn88]

Cliffs notes: OP states he is a ricer, plays too much NFS:Carbon, wishes he was Vin Diesel in FnF.

[mfratt]

Don't be granny shifting then

[1rstbmw!]

Whats wrong with a little nitrous? Just like any other FI if done properly it shouldnt do any harm. I was about to do this to mine but bought a turbo instead. I agree with going to the FI forum. The E36 forum is reserved for hating on the E36.:rolleyes

[1rstbmw!]

Cliffs notes: OP states he is a ricer, plays too much NFS:Carbon, wishes he was Vin Diesel in FnF.

Or maybe the op wants his car to actually have a little bit of power. Why bash the OP?

[GardenBeast]

i'd love NOS...... but.... iunno. cost? etc.

[happycamper]

yea don't bash the op at least hes trying something different

Edit: garden beast you can shoot nitrous m42's are really good engines im pretty sure they can take a ton of abuse be fore they go out

[SHARKBITEATTACK]

I agree, using nitrous oxide to increase engine compression and produce hp at the press of a switch is an amazing concept. What many fail to realize is that this technology was first implemented in German fighter planes during WWII. Someone help me out, where are BMW's manufactured again?

It's to bad that here at bimmerforums we lack mechanical knowledge but instead encompass a language full of sarcasm.
I also blame the fast and furious gave nitrous oxide such a negative connotation.

To the OP, there's a guy on the e36 m3 forum who started building a really kick ass direct injection nitrous setup. I'll see if I can find a link

[1rstbmw!]

yea don't bash the op at least hes trying something different

Edit: garden beast you can shoot nitrous m42's are really good engines im pretty sure they can take a ton of abuse be fore they go out

+1 If I'm not mistaken the M42 has alot of forged internals.

[Blanco]

NOS is a brand name used by Holley to identify their Nitrous Oxide System. Calling all nitrous systems "NOS" makes you look 100% like a ricer. Say "nitrous" or "N2O".

That said, hooking a nitrous kit up to an E36 is going to be exactly like it is for any other car. Making your engine last consists of two main components, adequate fuel and actual tuning. Beyond that it's going to be about how the system is installed, how much power you're adding, and how often you use it. Dollar for dollar and horsepower for horsepower, turbocharging is far more efficient once you figure in bottle refills down the line. Adding a turbo just costs more upfront, but you get power on tap anytime you want it in return.

[Bris328is]

NOS is a brand name used by Holley to identify their Nitrous Oxide System. Calling all nitrous systems "NOS" makes you look 100% like a ricer. Say "nitrous" or "N2O".

That said, hooking a nitrous kit up to an E36 is going to be exactly like it is for any other car. Making your engine last consists of two main components, adequate fuel and actual tuning. Beyond that it's going to be about how the system is installed, how much power you're adding, and how often you use it. Dollar for dollar and horsepower for horsepower, turbocharging is far more efficient once you figure in bottle refills down the line. Adding a turbo just costs more upfront, but you get power on tap anytime you want it in return.
+1-- Fi is manageable and as Blanco stated, its all in the tune-- go FI FTW

[Green95Bimmer]

Yes, i am aware that NOS is just an abbreviation that holley uses, its just easier to type nos than nitrous. and, yes i know turbocharging will give more results for the money, that is why i am doing it to my other engine im building up for my car. i just wanted to know if anyone had any experience with it because i would like to boost up my power in my current setup, and when i swap my new motor in, i an converting it to a direct port system. all i was really asking is if anyone thought that a 50 shot would be too much for a race here and there with a stock bottom end.

[Blanco]

That's a pretty safe power limit for most any engine, especially given the fact that most turbo systems add more power than that. A 75 or 100 shot might not be the best idea, though. For the occasional stoplight race with a 50 shot, it'll all be in the tune and fuel delivery.

[CoolJoe]

+1 If I'm not mistaken the M42 has alot of forged internals.


Good to know ;)

[mfratt]

http://www.0-60mag.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/22oznos-wcap.jpg

[SHARKBITEATTACK]

Easy there mfratt, :nono NOS will give your car some good potential, but you'll never match the beauty/power/sound of a naturally aspirated V8!:buttrock
http://www.mentalfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/mmmgood.jpg
I have the block, all i need are the accessories

[mfratt]

I'm more a fan of I-6.

http://www.geocities.com/ultimateinterstatesystem/i06.gif

[SpasticDwarf]

worse and worse. every day.

[happycamper]

yea

[Marmot02]

Road sign battle?

[crucifudge]

Cliffs notes: OP states he is a ricer, plays too much NFS:Carbon, wishes he was Vin Diesel in FnF.

I wish I was Vin Diesel in FnF. Loaded, supra that can jump trains, muscle cars, living my life quarter miles at a time. sweet.

[ecko457]

I'm more a fan of I-6.

http://www.geocities.com/ultimateinterstatesystem/i06.gif

:rofl oh shiat!!!!

[jared318i]

worse and worse. every day.

I'll admit the E36sub forum has its problems but nothing wrong with this thread so he wants to run nitrous only reason 99% of people look down on it is because people do blow alota engines with it. BECAUSE they dont use it properly tune it at all and even at that they have no idea on the concept of it so these guys just go out buy a kit just put it togather and hit the bottun blow the engine without a clue what there doing. So the idea is great its just it being used the correct way that isnt done often.


Also as far as cost going Depeands how often you will use it as to how much. Refills arnt much at all, and i wouldnt think you would use it much so it shouldnt be as much as a turbo even after awhile of use.

[Blanco]

I'll admit the E36sub forum has its problems but nothing wrong with this thread so he wants to run nitrous only reason 99% of people look down on it is because people do blow alota engines with it. BECAUSE they dont use it properly tune it at all and even at that they have no idea on the concept of it so these guys just go out buy a kit just put it togather and hit the bottun blow the engine without a clue what there doing. So the idea is great its just it being used the correct way that isnt done often.


Also as far as cost going Depeands how often you will use it as to how much. Refills arnt much at all, and i wouldnt think you would use it much so it shouldnt be as much as a turbo even after awhile of use.

My figures in putting your own turbo kit together instead of using an off-the-shelf kit. Big savings to be had. :)

[1rstbmw!]

My figures in putting your own turbo kit together instead of using an off-the-shelf kit. Big savings to be had. :)

Yes, that's what I'm doing now. DIY headgasket change FTL.

[Pswirley]

i don't know no one here really has experience with it perhaps it would be a good idea go to over to the FI section i hear people are more friendly towards the performance aspect of these cars. unlike the e36 subforum where everyone just makes show cars and CAI threads



Showcars FTW.

May want to take a look at Bris328i's new thread if think this subforum is all show and no go. Nobody does NOS here because its so scary fast LOL.. OP try a 75 shot and you should be fine.

[GardenBeast]

the m42 is a bullet proof little motor, for sure.

i should look into nitrous... heh. just the tank and shit in the trunk would look cool. and then BLAMMO! take that cops.

just like need for speed!

[SpasticDwarf]

I'll admit the E36sub forum has its problems but nothing wrong with this thread so he wants to run nitrous only reason 99% of people look down on it is because people do blow alota engines with it. BECAUSE they dont use it properly tune it at all and even at that they have no idea on the concept of it so these guys just go out buy a kit just put it togather and hit the bottun blow the engine without a clue what there doing. So the idea is great its just it being used the correct way that isnt done often.


Also as far as cost going Depeands how often you will use it as to how much. Refills arnt much at all, and i wouldnt think you would use it much so it shouldnt be as much as a turbo even after awhile of use.

Nitrous Oxide is incredibly hard on a motor. No one in this section should be running it without a built motor, it's that simple.

Seriously, the OP would MUCH better benefit from spending the money on a driving school.


Showcars FTW.

May want to take a look at Bris328i's new thread if think this subforum is all show and no go. Nobody does NOS here because its so scary fast LOL.. OP try a 75 shot and you should be fine.

Yeah, we're all frigtened of the raw power nitrous has the potential to unleash! Quick! Hit the deck!

I hate to be a hater, but 1/2 of this forum belongs on ricer-tech.

[raceMpower95]

..and Harry, I need em by tonight!

[SpasticDwarf]

..and Harry, I need em by tonight!

:rofl

http://homepage.usask.ca/%7Eskf147/Paul%20Walker%20and%20the%20Supra.jpg


I live my life a quarter mile at a time.

[Pswirley]

Nitrous Oxide is incredibly hard on a motor. No one in this section should be running it without a built motor, it's that simple.

Seriously, the OP would MUCH better benefit from spending the money on a driving school.



Yeah, we're all frigtened of the raw power nitrous has the potential to unleash! Quick! Hit the deck!

I hate to be a hater, but 1/2 of this forum belongs on ricer-tech.


Of all people, I anticipated you would get the sarcasm.

I hate to be an agree'er but I certainly agree with you.

[SpasticDwarf]

Of all people, I anticipated you would get the sarcasm.

I hate to be an agree'er but I certainly agree with you.

Someone got a new car (and sig) so how am I supposed to know who they are? :shifty

I ain't readin' names here bud. I'm lookin' for stupidity!

[Pswirley]

Someone got a new car (and sig) so how am I supposed to know who they are? :shifty

I ain't readin' names here bud. I'm lookin' for stupidity!


A blind person doesnt need a cane to find that in here. I will say that the entertainment value of the E36 sub forum is way up, but the quality of posts and technical help is down.


I love these guys though because they make me smilez. Thats why my E46 is a welcomed guest here.

[Green95Bimmer]

ok. well, i guess no one has experience with it then. I will try a single fogger progressive nitrous system, and see how it reacts. Ill take pictures and write a DIY of how i did it for anyone who wants to try it too.

[Pswirley]

ok. well, i guess no one has experience with it then. I will try a single fogger progressive nitrous system, and see how it reacts. Ill take pictures and write a DIY of how i did it for anyone who wants to try it too.


Sounds good.

Its okay to think out of the box, but we just arent much into NOS for these cars. If you take the time to do the write up, I am sure you will get many people reviewing the post and commenting on the process.

[GardenBeast]

i'd do nitrous. just to brag.

[4500 RPM]

Danger to manifold!!!

[happycamper]

sweet gardenbeast i'll look foward to reading about your experience

edit: who mods the e36 forum?

[M3anVr6t]

Nitrous is fun. i dont see why people disagree with it... if done right, its safe!

[sunshine]

my thoughts on the issue:

nitrous: hp gains over a short period

turbo: hp gains forever.


i mean i might be making things overly simple but hey....

[happycamper]

my thoughts on the issue:

nitrous: hp gains over a short period

turbo: hp gains forever.


i mean i might be making things overly simple but hey....

superchargers hp is there as soon as the on

turbo's gotta wait for the the spool

nitrous when u need or want it but for a short period

[1rstbmw!]

Nitrous is fun. i dont see why people disagree with it... if done right, its safe!

Hey I'm about 35 minutes away from you(Lafayette). When I get my head back on mine we need to head to beach bends or however you spell it.

[Pswirley]

My thoughts on the issue:

ghey.

[bmxludwig]

My thoughts, I leave for a month or so and come back to this stuff.....

I remember why I was addicted to this place during college, you can't beat this kind of entertainment at 1:17 am....

[LuvMy328is]

You can safely add nitrous to anything if you do it right. Here's a great example

~Phil

[LuvMy328is]

You can safely add nitrous to anything, if you do it right. Here's a great example.

Diesel Volkswagen

~Phil

[Blanco]

Nitrous Oxide is incredibly hard on a motor. No one in this section should be running it without a built motor, it's that simple.

I've heard/seen people say the exact same thing about every make and model. You know what it always comes down to? Fuel and tuning. Tuning is not sticking a basemap chip into your DME/ECU/ECM. All that is is somebody's educated guess on what should run your engine good. But unless it was your actual engine that was tuned, it isn't tuned for your actual engine. Sound redundant? It is and I'm amazed at how many people here miss that blatantly obvious fact.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of nitrous but I seriously hear people "you can't run nitrous without a built engine" all the time. That's as ridiculous as saying you can't run a turbo without a built engine. Sure, you can't add gobs of power to a stock engine but you can surely add a low level of power as long as you do it correctly. Done incorrectly, even turbo'ing for an additional 50whp will blow up your engine. It's not the turbo's fault, it's not the engine's fault, and it's not the car manufacturer's fault. I see people blame all three when they should be blaming themselves.

It's really that simple. :)

[Pswirley]

I've heard/seen people say the exact same thing about every make and model. You know what it always comes down to? Fuel and tuning. Tuning is not sticking a basemap chip into your DME/ECU/ECM. All that is is somebody's educated guess on what should run your engine good. But unless it was your actual engine that was tuned, it isn't tuned for your actual engine. Sound redundant? It is and I'm amazed at how many people here miss that blatantly obvious fact.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of nitrous but I seriously hear people "you can't run nitrous without a built engine" all the time. That's as ridiculous as saying you can't run a turbo without a built engine. Sure, you can't add gobs of power to a stock engine but you can surely add a low level of power as long as you do it correctly. Done incorrectly, even turbo'ing for an additional 50whp will blow up your engine. It's not the turbo's fault, it's not the engine's fault, and it's not the car manufacturer's fault. I see people blame all three when they should be blaming themselves.

It's really that simple. :)


Okay, so I am no engine specialist nor do I claim to be as it is clearly beyond my realm of understanding in most cases. I am just going to paraphrase your thoughts about NOS if you dont mind and try to some this up and make sure I understand you correctly.


NOS is ghey, right???

[mpwr ren rebel]

This thread is going no where. There won't be any technical support on the e36 subforum for adding nitrous onto a M50. Too many ignorant people that view nitrous as rice. Many "ricers" have turbos on their civics. Double standard? Go into other subforums and search around. There is info on here. Anything can work with money, time, and tuning. Research it and try. Then report back.


Nitrous Oxide is incredibly hard on a motor. No one in this section should be running it without a built motor, it's that simple.

Have you ever research nitrous oxide? Look into it if you haven't. With the addition of the small amounts of oxygen the OP is wanting, it won't hurt the engine as long as he maintains it properly. According to your logic, no one should run any power adders unless the motor is built right? He's not talking about adding a 200+ shot. If the stock motor can handle 6-8psi of turbo/supercharger, a mere 25-50 shot won't window the block, or cause valve tapping.

[SpasticDwarf]

I've heard/seen people say the exact same thing about every make and model. You know what it always comes down to? Fuel and tuning. Tuning is not sticking a basemap chip into your DME/ECU/ECM. All that is is somebody's educated guess on what should run your engine good. But unless it was your actual engine that was tuned, it isn't tuned for your actual engine. Sound redundant? It is and I'm amazed at how many people here miss that blatantly obvious fact.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of nitrous but I seriously hear people "you can't run nitrous without a built engine" all the time. That's as ridiculous as saying you can't run a turbo without a built engine. Sure, you can't add gobs of power to a stock engine but you can surely add a low level of power as long as you do it correctly. Done incorrectly, even turbo'ing for an additional 50whp will blow up your engine. It's not the turbo's fault, it's not the engine's fault, and it's not the car manufacturer's fault. I see people blame all three when they should be blaming themselves.

It's really that simple. :)


This thread is going no where. There won't be any technical support on the e36 subforum for adding nitrous onto a M50. Too many ignorant people that view nitrous as rice. Many "ricers" have turbos on their civics. Double standard? Go into other subforums and search around. There is info on here. Anything can work with money, time, and tuning. Research it and try. Then report back.

Have you ever research nitrous oxide? Look into it if you haven't. With the addition of the small amounts of oxygen the OP is wanting, it won't hurt the engine as long as he maintains it properly. According to your logic, no one should run any power adders unless the motor is built right? He's not talking about adding a 200+ shot. If the stock motor can handle 6-8psi of turbo/supercharger, a mere 25-50 shot won't window the block, or cause valve tapping.

Key words in my post were "In this section". I'm not fond of this section. Sure, there are a few of you (you two in particular) who might have the knowledge and know-how to run nitrous safely... but this is the e36 subforum after all.

And I still stand with the OP's money is far better spend on a driving class than nitrous.

[Bris328is]

the forum has a FI section-- but now nitrus section or heavy modded section-- another I also noted that there is no dumbass sction:stickoutt

[Pswirley]

I volunteer to moderate the DumbA** section.

[Blanco]

Okay, so I am no engine specialist nor do I claim to be as it is clearly beyond my realm of understanding in most cases. I am just going to paraphrase your thoughts about NOS if you dont mind and try to some this up and make sure I understand you correctly.


NOS is ghey, right???

I prefer, "turbo is far better". :D

[IrishTarmac]

oh wow, too bad I missed this...

[drtweak1992325i]

Talk to this guy

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/member.php?u=78933

[Ezekiel10]

To the best of my experience I have found to have really good luck with zex systems they make kits for the bmw. Though I have not used one on a BMW I have used one on several other cars.. The systems come with their own brain box that from what I remember will only work if your fuel pressure is at the right level and you are wide open throttle. I have never had a single problem with it.. My friend had a Suzuki Forenza which if you are broke and want to get around isn't a bad car, but he put a ZEX system on his and could run 14's w/stock everything and that was a mile above sea level at bandamere speedway. Just a litte somthing to input..

[atlantisvip]

Im thinking of throwing some spray on my 95 325 to bump up the power a little while i build up my other engine for it. Does anyone have any experience with a single fogger wet system, something that wont blow a stock m50 up?

Reading this gives me the impression that you are young and in-experienced and therefore should not be mixing BMWs and NOS anytime soon.;)

[ChunkySoupra]

Who here has actually ran nitrous on their car? We've ran all sorts of nitrous an many inline style engines with no problems at all. With both forged and unforged interals. If you set it up correctly, it will run fine. Adjust the timing correctly and make sure your car is reliable first.

Don't pretend that it will blow up when you honestly have no idea what you are talking about.

[bimmerprojekt3]

well if you to go through with it.. report back and let us know


if it works out very nicely i wouldn't doubt a small wave of a trend lol

[Ezekiel10]

No Nos is not ghey, it's a decent power adder for those who want to go faster and don't have thousands to spend..

[ChunkySoupra]

Sounds like there are too many crybabies on here who are infatuated with Fast and the Furious!

NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWZZZZZ! He's got enough of that nOS in there to blow himself up?!@#!@#

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/maverick41584/fast_furious_024.jpg

You all need to do a little growing up and less on "what he said, she said." Don't speak unless you've honestly tried it or seen the ramifications from a properly installed/tuned nitrous setup.

It's all about fuel delivery, timing, and literally installing the kit correctly. Regapping your plugs, etc. There are many points to making a kit install and run correctly on a car versus just hooking it up and popping your trunk to act cool because your car is still slow. I swear to God this site is full of the Honda boys who aged a year or two but are still full of the same ol' sh*t.

/thread.

[atlantisvip]

:eatpop:

[NY Bimmers]

OP for 25-50 shot you're not gonna run a wet fogger system.....the wet systems are for when you're ready to make big power. You're gonna run a fogger that goes before the TB and it's gonna be a dry system. This is the easiest install and will make easy power. I agree ZEX has the most user friendly set up. Use ZEX if you don't have a clue about nitrous, motors, or anything electrical/mechanical. Otherwise if you go NOS or NX or any other manufacturer you'll need to plumb and wire up at least one solenoid for a single stage set up.

[freakgeek]

I wonder if the OP is still waiting around almost a year after his original post waiting for an answer?

[NY Bimmers]

HAHA!!! I just realized that!

[Arctikz]

nos is cheating in stop light races lol.. btw this thread = super old

[atlantisvip]

I wonder if the OP is still waiting around almost a year after his original post waiting for an answer?

It was Ezekiel10 :shifty

[Ezekiel10]

It was Ezekiel10 :shifty



uhhh what no not me..