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Jeff@eurobahn
05-23-2003, 07:41 PM
We just got our latest version of M5 software. I hope you will be ablt to make out the dyno sheet. 53 Real Brake HP increase. Price for bimmerforums Members is $699.00 plus shipping unless you live in the LA area then there is no shipping charge.

Let me know if you have questions :)

Jeff

///M LIFEŠ
05-25-2003, 08:02 PM
That is quite impressive

mikemaster
05-25-2003, 09:58 PM
Out of curiosity, do you have some dyno charts for 540's and also can it be customized to specific mods such as exhaust, cai, etc? Thanks.

Jeff@eurobahn
05-26-2003, 02:19 PM
Mike,

I am sorry to say that as of right now I do not have a dyno chart for the 540. However we do know that your HP increase will be approx. 20 and Torque of approx. 17 Ft. Lbs, The real joy of this software package is the overall driving feel and throttle response.

Yes, I can tailor the package for a CAI and Exhaust. With those two other add ons you can expect an even greater improvement in power and performance.

Thanks

Jeff

NiTE
05-26-2003, 03:06 PM
:eek: How the hell do you guys get 53 more HP out of an M5 and 32 more hp out of an M3... :eek: :eek:

Jeff@eurobahn
05-26-2003, 03:35 PM
Well Sid,

I wish I could say I understand the whole thing. But to be honest I am in awe of what the Sueprchip guys can do. They have spent nearly 20 years perfecting their tuning systems. I am just happy we can now bring it to the US. The europeans have enjoyed it for long enough :)

What I do know is that they increase timing, add additional fueling to the maps and reconfigure air/fuel mixtures for optomized performance and throttle response. My 2002 330 drives like a totally different car now. When I first loaded the software and took it for a drive I was simply stunned at the aggressive feel.

Jeff

95m3sc
05-26-2003, 06:22 PM
Jeff, I saw an add in Bimmer magazine for supperchips but the site was down when I checked. Is that your site? Do you send out the software tools for the download? if I get a CAI later will you send me stage II or III at no additiona;l charge. Also can I run the stage III now without additional mods or will it run too pig Rich. I have a 540 it 2003 FYI

psychocandy
05-26-2003, 06:25 PM
What is the difference b/t this software and the other software that is out (AA, Dinan, JC)?

Jeff@eurobahn
05-26-2003, 06:52 PM
I love that shot, a happy BMW family photo! Given where you live, you would need to send us your ECU for flashing, This takes one day and then we can overnight it back to you. Eurobahn will have dealers in many states soon but for now our main facility in California is doing the flashing. We can preset the car for CAI and open Exhasut at the time we do it so you will not need a second flashing. These computers have adaptaion E-Proms that allow them to learn a new set of peramiters up to a certain point.

As to the difference between all the various software programs out there, that's a great question. Unfortunately it's a very hard one to answer. To increase power you need more air and more fuel with additional timing. Ok, so we now know what we need, the question is really how do we get there.

And here is where the differences come into play. Jim C is a good tuner and so are Karl's guys at AA. But Superchips is the worlds largest performance tuning company. They program more cars a year than all the programming JC and AA have ever turned out in their entire histories combined. This is not to say that there stuff is 10 times better or something, its just to say they have been doing this longer and more often than anyone else. In nearly 20 years of business they have tuned something like 150,000 cars.

Thats a lot! The other thing is that every single program that is put into a car is personalized and custom for that specific vehicle. It is not some off the shelf injector style software that can't know your driving habits or fuel tyes etc.

I hope that answers your question, as I said it's a hard comparison to make due to the totally different way in which Superchips creates their software. so far we have had nothing but fantastic results with this system. Wish I knew about it yeas ago!

Jeff

Eurobahn
818-381-6335

95m3sc
05-26-2003, 06:53 PM
since when does jim conforti or Active have software out for the e39 2003's

Jeff@eurobahn
05-26-2003, 06:56 PM
Good point! thats the other thing we have every single car available!

mikemaster
05-26-2003, 08:52 PM
I might be interested if you can find a dyno chart for me. Thx.

AB540
05-26-2003, 10:23 PM
Yes, I can tailor the package for a CAI and Exhaust. With those two other add ons you can expect an even greater improvement in power and performance.

The 540 already has a CAI from factory, does it not ? I refer to the E34, don't know about the E39

Also, the factroy exhaust is going to be hard to improve on. Any tests done to prove a gain ?


However we do know that your HP increase will be approx. 20 and Torque of approx. 17 Ft. Lbs, The real joy of this software package is the overall driving feel and throttle response.

Is this for the E34 or E39 ?

Is there tranny software available ?

XrayMD
05-27-2003, 11:04 AM
Hang on a second here. Look at the dyno chart again. The only real increase in HP comes over 6000RPM. Is this really usable? I'd rather have an increase across the power band, at least at 3500 to 5500 RPM.:dunno

:drink1:

Steve

Jeff@eurobahn
05-27-2003, 12:00 PM
Mike, please send me an email with an address that I can send you a diferent Dyno chart that I just received. They never look right when I upload them.

AB540, the cold air intakes that we are speaking about flow quite a bit better than stock. And yes, there are always better exhasts for performance than stock ones. the software we are discussing here is for the E39 series of vehicles.

XrayMD, there are performance and driveability improvements a t lower RPM's, what youa re seeing is the largest percentage of change. This software makes the vehicle more responsive through out most of the power range with snappier throttle response and sharper reactions.

Jeff

mikemaster
05-27-2003, 05:54 PM
Sent you an email Jeff. Another ?: Is the software different for 97 and 98's compared to the 99's on?

XrayMD
05-27-2003, 07:47 PM
Jeff...

I'm not going to bash the Superchip company, but I feel it only fair to report my experience with them and that of my friend's.

Granted, this may not be the same version of the Superchip that we had experience as we put the Superchip programming in about a year ago.

A Superchip representative drove from Chicago to meet us and do the programming. He had a lot of trouble doing the programming and it took a lot longer than it should have and required help from the England office to get it right. Also, he showed up with the wrong cable for the OBD-II port. Luckily, we were able to convince a nearby BMW dealer that we knew to let us borrow the correct connector.

The software did remove the top speed limiter and did raise the rev limiter by 300 RPM. However, it also created a dead spot in my power band at approx. 3500-3800 RPM. I'd be accelerating and hit that spot and it almost felt like a big hiccup in power.

I have since replaced the Superchip programming with a competitor's programming that I have been very happy with. The dead spot is gone and the throttle response is great, like the first time I ever hit the "Sport" button.

Again, this may have been a previous version of the software so I can't speak for the current version. BTW, the cars we chipped were 2002 M5's.

:drink1:

XrayMD

Jeff@eurobahn
05-27-2003, 11:38 PM
Well it's unfortunate that the person who did your load was not up to snuff. I personally have not had an unhappy customer. In one case on the first Land Rover we did, there was very little improvement in power. A quick email and phone call and they re-wrote the program and emailed it to me the next day.

We loaded it in and boom power, throttle response, excellent torque. So it seems strange to me that the person who did it for you didn't work out the issues for you.

I am sorry your experience was not a positive one. Having come from RMS I am certainly aware of what it's like to have an un-happy customer. My expereinces with Superchips have been nothing but positive and very enjoyable. Sometimes mistakes can be made, it happens. But good customer service and quick response can solve any issue that may arise with any upgrade.

Jeff Zusman
Eurobahn
818-381-6335

GriMpY
05-28-2003, 03:47 AM
how much for a 528i chip?

Darrin

Jeff@eurobahn
05-28-2003, 11:11 PM
Grimpy,

Please send me an eamil or PM and I will give you the pricing. I have been asked by the moderators not to discuss sales in the forums. :)

Thanks
Jeff
eurobahn
818-381-6335
jeff@eurobahn.us

sirtiger
05-29-2003, 04:44 PM
wow....

RevHigh
05-30-2003, 12:39 PM
That chart reads 53 BHP