** VIDEO ** e46 m3 smg vs. c32 amg

[Sticky]

Thanks to ///Mwannabe for hosting Video: http://www.maximumgeek.net/downloads...rsusC32AMG.zip


Well at long last, I had the battle I had been waiting for. I called out FrankW to race his c32 vs. my m3, but he kind of ignored my post (*cough* pussy *cough*). However, av2 responded back to me that he would love to run my m3. We both agreed it would be good fun and we agreed on a time and place to meet. Leemos also came along for the fun with his friend.

We met up at 10:30 and a2v was there with his beautiful c32, and also his friends c32 who I remembered from the track. I had met him before at cali speedway during drag racing. His c32 has an evosport pulley. We decided I would race the stock c32 first, and then the modified one later.

Race 1: This if from a roll, and the c32 gets a slight jump, due it's large amount of torque. Into second we are really neck and neck, and in third I pull slightly. Into fourth I pulled a little bit more. I was shocked to say the least, as was a2v. We both agreed on me pulling up top by about 1 car.

Race 2: From a stop, I get a good jump of about a car due to launch control. The m3 seems to be able to launch with less spin than the c32. That car length stays through second, and into third and fourth I pull some more and it ends up at about 2.5 cars I would say.

I was very suprised, as I really expected to lose. av2 also asked me if I was stock, because he had raced his friends m3 before and beat him, but his was stick. I am not sure what to say, as I was amazed I was able to pull from a roll, since that is the c32's strength.

I would like to thank av2 for coming out and racing, it was a lot of fun. We went for rides in each others cars, and both remarked about how we considered purchasing our respective cars. We both decided that each car has it's strengths, and both are amazing machines. Was a lot of fun, nice meeting you and your friend.

[Sticky]

These are the details of the race with the modified c32.

Now, I wish I had the modified c32 race on video, but my friend skrewed up when taping. He set the camera to record to memory and not to tape. Oh well

We raced the same way as we did with the stock c32, from a roll, and then from a stop. This c32 had just an evosport pulley.

Race 1 from a roll:

We both go and are literally neck and neck. Into second we are both still even. Into third I would say we are still even with me maybe being slightly ahead. Into fourth I would say I was about a half car ahead. We shut down at 140.

Race 2 from a stop:

I use launch control and we both launch, and he gets about a half car off the launch. He has wider tires and 19 inch bbw lm's which made for a wider contact patch than the stock c32. This distance stays all the way until into then end of 3rd gear when I creep up a bit. Into fourth it is basically the same, and we shut down.

I lost the race from a stop, the added torque from the pulley swap and the wider tires on this c32 made a big difference. That c32 is a very fast car.

Basically what we learned form this is that a c32 and m3 are very close in straight line performance. Basically it would go back and fourth as each person mods. The c32 guy adds a pulley, the m3 guy has to get an exhaust and intake, then the c32 guy gets a chip, then the m3 guy gets headers, it never ends.

Here is a pic of the c32 with bbw lm's:

[DINANISR3]

i saw that C32 on BBS LM's at CAL speed way last time i went.. good race.. but sticky when are we gonna go at it? nothing better than some sibling rivalry..

[Sticky]

Originally posted by DINANISR3
i saw that C32 on BBS LM's at CAL speed way last time i went.. good race.. but sticky when are we gonna go at it? nothing better than some sibling rivalry..

As I said, anytime

There are 2 exact same c32's with bbs lm's. One has just a pulley, and one has a pulley + intercooler upgrade. I ran the one with the pulley and intercooler upgrade at the track, and he was faster by 1/10.

I might even run him tonight

[///Mwannabe]

Too bad you guys couldn't race in the daylight or at a track or something.

[Sticky]

Originally posted by ///Mwannabe
Too bad you guys couldn't race in the daylight or at a track or something.

I know, but hey, it's better than nothing.

[LY95]

Nice runs Sticky.

[Slvr328IS]

Good video. Congrats Sticky.

[Sticky]

I think this video was way better than the one I made with the 350z race. I am getting better at this. I am still searching for that compresison/quality balance.

I thought the nighshot worked out well too, it is not hard to see everything in the dark.

[Leemos]

Yeah these were pretty good races, although not a great place to race IMO. Fullerton road is just ahead and there could have very easily been a cop coming from there.
I think a more secluded place were you could set the camera up on a tripod about 1/8 mi. ahead and watch them come by would be ideal.
The c32 with pulleys seemed quite a bit faster than the stock one. All were nice rides.

[LY95]

Leemos,

"I always tell the truth, even when I lie."

[darkesthours]

I was actually the one filming this race. (1st 2 races were filmed from the c32 with a pulley upgrade).

Unfortunately I didn't really know how to work Sticky's camera so I messed up the taping on the races against the c32 with the pulley so those aren't on the video. However, Sticky did beat the modified c32 when they raced from a roll, but he lost when they raced from a stop.

[FrankW]

yeah, thanks for calling my (cough* pussy*cough)... Shows how mature you are. j/k

anywayz...i've decided to go, but fell asleep after watching that crappy wiz vs suns game on espn. Did av2 had the stock rims or bbs LM? that might have been the factor. Tomorrow i'm going to the Fountain Valley meet. If you guys are going i'll c ya there.

leemos, you got that right. I live around the area as well. There's tons of cops on fullerton all the time.

btw, one of my best friend has a 03 M3 SMGII...i've driven it. There is really nothing to prove about each car. Both are nice. If you put them both on the track, i'm sure the M3 will win handsdown.

[FrankW]

NICE VIDDDDD....: :

btw, is it me or that second run sticky was on the gas first before av2 step on it.

anyway, a kill is a kill...i don't think i can do any better than that...

[Sticky]

Originally posted by FrankW

Did av2 had the stock rims or bbs LM? that might have been the factor. Tomorrow i'm going to the Fountain Valley meet. If you guys are going i'll c ya there.

Bone stock down to the rims

[Sticky]

Originally posted by FrankW
NICE VIDDDDD....: :

btw, is it me or that second run sticky was on the gas first before av2 step on it.

anyway, a kill is a kill...i don't think i can do any better than that...

I probably had a slight jump, but I did not cheat or anything like that, I went on the third honk. I did have less tire spin so I got off the line a bit quicker.

[FrankW]

I know, I can tell from the video...

whats the mileage on ur car? btw...

I guess from the video we can say that C32 is very much on par with M3 on acceleration. Remember the other video of c32vsM3 that was posted awhile ago? the c32 won by a car in that video.

it's all good....

we'll be meeting at Diamond Plaza at 10:30am tomorrow and roll to fountain valley around 11. see if you want to join...

[yack447]

nice work sticky

[Sticky]

Originally posted by FrankW
I know, I can tell from the video...

whats the mileage on ur car? btw...

I guess from the video we can say that C32 is very much on par with M3 on acceleration. Remember the other video of c32vsM3 that was posted awhile ago? the c32 won by a car in that video.

They are very close. I would say the m3 did have an edge accelerating in both instances with the stock c32. A pulley on the c32 and it really comes down to driver in that case. I will be racing a c32 with pulley + intercoler upgrade today, I will let you know how that goes.

Was the m3 in the video smg?

[///Mwannabe]

Hey if u tape that one let me know. I can host it for you.

[av2]

Hey Sticky,
It was fun racing with you last night and having the opportunity of riding in your M3. The shift of that SMG transmission is unreal. Oh well...you win some, you lose some. It's all good. Enjoy your ride.

[FrankW]

Originally posted by Sticky
They are very close. I would say the m3 did have an edge accelerating in both instances with the stock c32. A pulley on the c32 and it really comes down to driver in that case. I will be racing a c32 with pulley + intercoler upgrade today, I will let you know how that goes.

Was the m3 in the video smg?

yeah, i believe in the other video the M3 was a SMG as well. There's some voice talking about what car was running when they film the crap...

i got two vid for that...one is 371 kb and the other 500 kb

[Sticky]

Originally posted by av2
Hey Sticky,
It was fun racing with you last night and having the opportunity of riding in your M3. The shift of that SMG transmission is unreal. Oh well...you win some, you lose some. It's all good. Enjoy your ride.

Hey, it was a lot of fun. The torque of the c32 is immense, that car is quite quick. If it makes you feel better I raced charles' c32 tonight with the pulley + intercooler upgrade and he beat me. We did not go from a stop but I would say he beat me decisively every time we raced. His car and peter's car are supposed to be similar, but charles car is just plain faster. He pulled 2-3 cars on me until 130 mph.

[Indigo02Z24]

Here's a question.. Why don't you just have someone ride along and tape from in car because you can't tell shit from the trailer?

Nice runs

[My Z28 Your M3]

Check this out, sticky-fingers...

I want a bit of this action out on the same street.

Bring the M3 SMG AND the fastest C32 you can find...

I am in a very slightly modified 2002 Camaro Z28 and am very interested in pitting it against some of BMW and Mercedes big guns.

Send me a PM and let me know when. This weekend maybe?

-D