NHTSA DECLARES HIDs Illegal - BLOW OUT SALE/EVERYTHING MUST GO

**umnitza** · 07-22-2003, 01:57 PM

PRICING

$400 for 4500K
$480 for 5500K
$520 for 5100K
$550 for 6000K

These prices are SHIPPED. And the LAST DAY TO PURCHASE is 8/12.

IMPORTANT:

A little bit of background. NHSTA/DOT has been trying to introduce new laws to regulate the sale of HID... well.. they just decided to BAN ALL HID KITS. They do not have a set regulation because HID does not use a filament.. therefore, no matter how accurate the HID kit is, it fails because of that ONE requirement. Well, DUH, HID has no filament, so it automatically fails.

After 8/15/2003, HID kits as you know it will never be sold again unless new laws are made. I'm sure there are all types of legal issues here,for one, this has all been done without anyone knowing. After 8/15/03, there will be a $5,000 fine PER DAY for vendors selling HID kits.

Therefore, I need to move out ALL my inventory.

All HID kits are now on sale on our website. Parts will still be available and warranties will still be honored after the above date. After 8/15, only parts sold for warranty purposes will be allowed.

You will begin seeing a LOT of HID vendors out there selling kits to move inventory, but we still stress the importance of going with Umnitza/Catz. I am not sure of the future of Umnitza in HID, but Catz will always be there for your warranty and replacement needs.

Video:

HID VIDEO

Rising White bulb: 3200 lumens, 202,000 candle power, 2000 hour life expectancy ( halogen is 400 hours )

Bulb info: All are D2S type, 35 watt

Igniter info: OEM equipment for HID in Japan, output voltage to bulb; 18-27kv

Ballast info: OEM equipment for HID in Japan, output voltage; 85volt, 35 watt

All ballast's have Safety Auto Shut-off feature.

HID bulbs place capsule in exact placement of halogen filament even on Hi/Lo kits.

Other Details:
Molded Base - not "hot glued" - but actually MOLDED where the bulb is placed into the mold and the plastic is poured in.
Matsushita Ballast and Igniter - Panasonic's parent company.
GE Bulb - I'm guessing here but they "bring good things to life"

PnP Install - it took me 5 minutes per side to install them - this is NOT an exaggeration.
Separate Ballast and Igniter Kit Wetzler approved of this setup (for more information view www.geocities.com/kitwetzler). His comment to me was: you won't get the potential for arcing because the ballast is removed from the igniter.
ISO9001 and ISO140001 Certified - not much to say here.
Retails for same price as Philips - and doesn't really go down - it's because of the sheer quantity that allows us to do it.

Here are some pics:

**DSK M3/4** · 07-22-2003, 02:13 PM

do you have a link to the NHTSA story?

**umnitza** · 07-22-2003, 02:27 PM

for now, private eyes only.

**jayhudson** · 07-22-2003, 02:53 PM

Bummer, Matt. Here's hopin' mine keep working 'til I sell the car.

Jay

**umnitza** · 07-22-2003, 02:54 PM

your warranty is still good. so don't worry about it.

**m3howie** · 07-22-2003, 03:27 PM

Aw man, what timing, I bought mine at full price!!

**thurst0509** · 07-22-2003, 03:54 PM

not related to this sale, but does this ban include the sale of factory HID lights? I see the word "kit" several times in your quote up there, but it doesn't seem to make sense banning the kits while factory HID's are still allowed.

could it be some legislation that car manufacturers are pushing for so they can edge the kit makers out and gain a monopoly on HID's? seems a bit suspicious... *puts on tinfoil hat*

finally, will you extend these sale prices to your kits (for example ZKW + DDE + HID)?

**boostnM3** · 07-22-2003, 04:20 PM

I just went to NHTSA website and also called the DOT hotline. By what i gathered, this story is complete BS. They are not banning HID kits. As the person explained to me, they would have to ban all HID kits including factory installed kits. He said thats impossible to do.

SO i guess we have nothing to worry about guys. After i thought about it more, seems to be a good scheme to sell more kits to free up inventory. Pretty good plot.

**outkastaliens** · 07-22-2003, 04:39 PM

i think if this was a plan to free up inventory, i think that is complete bullshit. there is a code of ethics and this is over the limit. I am not accusing, but if this is not true, understanding vendors contribute a lot of money to the site, but this should be looked at very closly! Matt, i really hope what was quoted above is not true. It seems that it would have gone public already because there are a lot of vendors out there that they are not going to be able to contact them all. I am just crossing my fingers everything matt has said is true.

**xvxax** · 07-22-2003, 04:45 PM

Hm, lemme ask my dad. He's the press rep for NHTSA. I'll get back to you.

**Dean** · 07-22-2003, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by umnitza
for now, private eyes only.

If you want to relieve people on this board from raising the B.S. flag I say post the link? WHo are you protecting from hiding the link? If its true then who cares? Are you afraid people will call the NHTSA and complain? Or is the link not off of the NHTSA website and the source of the information could be wrong or not 100% sure?

**///MZG** · 07-22-2003, 06:09 PM

this is really weird.

**Iron Chef** · 07-22-2003, 06:13 PM

550 shipped for the 6000k? What's the original price?

**umnitza** · 07-22-2003, 06:30 PM

My source is a Steve M. from SEMA in Washington.
202-XXX, XXXX.

Until I hear more, I don't know what to say.

To claim this is a ploy is absolutely ridiculous because I have more to lose if this is true than you can imagine.

If it's a hoax, which is what I would WISH it to be, then I'm hoping that SEMA rep is going to call me back.

And, it's for ALL HID AFTER MARKET KITS, not kits that are sold by the manufacturer which already have DOT approval.

I certainly hope I'm wrong on this.!!!!

**jmargo** · 07-22-2003, 06:56 PM

I left my reply to all of this on the General thread.
I've got a GREAT Idea.....lets get the facts before we bash someone ! I know, I know its not as fun but its worth a try.
Jason

**axcE36M3** · 07-22-2003, 07:01 PM

i'll back matt up on this. i was contacted by catz as well about this matter. so all kits are on clearance now. no more after the 15th for me either.

**umnitza** · 07-22-2003, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by axcE36M3
i'll back matt up on this. i was contacted by catz as well about this matter. so all kits are on clearance now. no more after the 15th for me either.

thank you.

I really hope I'm the vendor that cried wolf too soon.

It's like this in terms of logic. Wwhen Prohibition was enforced, the price of booze went UP, not DOWN. Why would I want to offload my inventory???? I could "quitely" sell the kits privately to individuals like bootleggers. Unfortunatley, I'm too honest for my own good, and I have a family to worry about, so I'm not going to be doing anything illegal or that I could be fined for. I'm sorry, I don't do that

**Madd96///M3** · 07-22-2003, 09:22 PM

how would you describe the color of each kit? The kits come with everything you need right, ballists and install stuff etc, bulbs.....Im looking for white with a little blue from certain angles, but not bright blue or purple, which kit is for me?

**magnetic1** · 07-23-2003, 02:10 AM

If you guys still dont believe UMNITZA and AXC.... check out pages 3/4 of http://hidforum.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=596

This is truly a sad sad day.... this is for ALL Aftermarket HID kits...

To make a long story short.. there is currently no regulations on replacing halogen bulbs with HID. The only thing DOT goes by, is that when you replace a halogen bulb, it must have a filament in the same location as halogen. Well, gee... HID technology does not have a filament, so guess what, it fails.

To me and others I have talked to, this seems like a one man ploy to rid the market, and I believe it too... the gentleman's name with NHSTA that I have been informed of is Michael Cole.. he is local to the Washington DC area... He has posted on local autocrossing lists vehemently bashing HID kits and it is my belief that he hates them and has made this his personal vendetta or something....

I was told by Catz that then they did testing, they ised a Catz 9006 in a 9004 housing... of course nothing is going to be right... ARGH. In addition, they tested CRAP 9000+K kits in 9004 housings from vendors like hidkits.com etc...

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**umnitza** · 07-23-2003, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by Madd96///M3
how would you describe the color of each kit? The kits come with everything you need right, ballists and install stuff etc, bulbs.....Im looking for white with a little blue from certain angles, but not bright blue or purple, which kit is for me?

Sorry, I'm late to the thread on this one. As you can imagine, have been fielding non stop for ours.

4500K - white/halogen
5100K - bluish/white
5500K - bluish/bluish
6000K - purplish/white

If you want best of both worlds, it's 5100K, if you want best output, it's 4500K

Email me for quicker responses.

**Andy W** · 07-23-2003, 04:00 AM

for more info on this HID ruling...see my post here..
http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...hreadid=116217

**Madd96///M3** · 07-23-2003, 08:57 AM

thanks

**Madd96///M3** · 07-23-2003, 09:39 AM

which kit is on the white e36 in the video on your website? The one with ZKWs..

**stpracer** · 07-23-2003, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by magnetic1
If you guys still dont believe UMNITZA and AXC.... check out pages 3/4 of http://hidforum.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=596

I posted my .02 after reading this thread.
thanks

**umnitza** · 07-23-2003, 10:18 AM

4500K is on my site videos

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