Replica Hatch Spoilers for Coupe now readily available !!!

[CMM3]

For details see my original post

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1934952

Here again is the information:

Both versions of the Spoilers are now availble and will ship in 3-4 days after reciept of order from American International Racing
http://www.americaninternationalracing.com/

The person to speak with there is John Brewer he can be reached at 626-969-7733

Pricing is $450 for the fiberglass versions and $700 for them made in carbon fiber.

[CMM3]

Curious - anyone pulling the trigger on this??

[dcrothers]

I will be as soon as i get the funds together!!

[tractorcrusher]

I will be as soon as i get the funds together!!

Same here. Also deciding on what material I want to order.

[jcorbs]

Looks good. What is involved with deleting the rear wiper?

Very tempting?

Is there a pic of the setup WITH the wiper?

Is anyone selling the high racing wings and mounts?

Thanks and Happy New Year ALL!

John Corbs

[breetime]

has anyone ordered from this site? im slightly doubting its legitimacy

[dcrothers]

CMM3 got his from these folks. I think he worked with them to develop it.
He'll chime in i'm sure.

[breetime]

CMM3 got his from these folks. I think he worked with them to develop it.
He'll chime in i'm sure.

i sure hope so......if it proves legit, i got cash waiting.

[BenFenner]

i sure hope so......if it proves legit, i got cash waiting.

Check the first link in the first post?

[CMM3]

It's all perfectly legit, there should be no concern about the source, American Racing International is a reputable US based company.

As previously posted I spent a rediculous amount of money to acquire the last NOS spoiler in the world. I then went on a search to find a US company that was reputable and willing to build the molds at no cost, with the arrangment being that they would have exlusive rights to sell the products thus recouping the cost to build the molds and also able to profit from the sale of them. What I got out of it was a modified version for my car for "rear window delete". To get a modified version an exact replica had to be made first then modified so a second mold can be made. I got in touch with John Brewer from American Racing International. They have a robust web site and are a major supplier of a large variety or aftermaket fiberglass and carbon fiber parts. John told me he had done the same for a BMW CCA member who wanted replica trunk lids for the BMW 2002 and it had all worked out nicely, and he'd do the same with me. He got an original of the 2002 trunk lid from the member (even told me his name but I can't remember) to make a mold, was then able to add this part to his product offerings and has since sold a fair amount of them. (now on their web site ).

I sent John my original and he made the molds and parts.
The rest as they say is now history, I have one of the modified versions on my car, John at ARI is now an exlusive manufacturer able to produce and sell both versions of the spoilers and the BMW Z3 community has a relaiable source for a once obsolete part. WIN-WIN-WIN.

To answer the other questions.

>Doing a rear wiper delete by using the "wiper delete" version of the spoiler would be very straight forward as the spoiler covers the remaining hole once the wiper assembly is removed. I had my hole welded up when the car was repainted. But if I were doing it on a car with a wiper then the appoach I'd take is to remove the wiper assembly. Take a small piece of aluminum sheet metal about 2"x2" and epoxy it into place from the inside of the hatch covering the hole. I'd then put a little RTV around the hole on the outside just enough to seal the patch to the hole on the outside to prevent water from accumulating. Then simply install the spoiler. The spoiler has a drain channel in the middle so covering the hole from the inside will allow this to funtion correctly with the spoiler covering the hole and patch.

>There are Z3 owners out there with an original spoiler installed on their car with the rear wiper, will someone please post pictures

> Forum member WarrenM purchased a replica from me. AIR sent me one version of each to verify the fit, Also helped me to recoupe some of the cost of the original when I sold it. I test fitted it on my car and it fit perfectly. Warrenm has since recieved it and done the same and posted his opinion that it fit perfectly as well on my original thread. He got the exact same thing as if he'd directly ordered it from AIR.

I'd also like to say that John went out on a limb, he invested his companies resources to build the molds and first article parts with only my inputs that it should work out and he'd sell a fair number of them. I felt it was a clean way to go, no minimum qty's no group buy, just a good desirable part being made availbe.

At the end of the day it ended up costing me several hundred dollars to get the version I wanted for my car, but not significantly more than the current selling price by AIR so I'm happy.

My continued interest in promoting these is for AIR's benifit. Again I don't make a penny on any sales.

I comitted to John that I'd get the word out and make sure that Z3 owners are aware that these parts are availble and help to promote them to the cumminity so I have an obligation to him. So I do hope that he ends up selling a bunch of them and this ends up being a profitable investment for him.

If so in furture maybe they'll be another BMW replica part needed and he'll be willing to do it again.

EDIT: I just visited the AIR website for the first time in a while and see the spoilers are now listed for sale. The picture is of the wiper delete version as shown installed on my car. So I can offically claim that my car is the First to have one intalled ..feels good to see the project completed successfully.

[Wertles]

>There are Z3 owners out there with an original spoiler installed on their car with the rear wiper, will someone please post pictures

This is the best pic I've got at the moment. OEM spoiler with rear window wiper.

[fuz9]

i sure hope so......if it proves legit, i got cash waiting.

Also I'm wondering what is an expected install cost with paint?

[jajou318]

Also I'm wondering what is an expected install cost with paint?

Call and ask a body shop. You can't really expect these questions to be answered here. Price varies from body shop to body shop.

[Wertles]

I would estimate around $200 for paint (depending on the amount of prep) and $300-400 for install if it installs like OEM. It is a couple of hours as there are interior bits to remove, holes to drill etc.

[CMM3]

Once painted the installation isn't all that hard. In fact I would have done it myself if not for the fact that my car was going into the body shop for some other work.

Basics to mount after the spoiler has been painted.

1.Remove hatch trim and tail lights - 20 minutes at most
2.Remove rear wiper if doing delete - no idea but looks like a few bolts and a nut.
3.Place center piece on car and locate approx spots where the 4 inserts will land.
4. Apply a layer of putty on the car to the areas where the inserts are going to be located,
4.a Apply some form of lubricant to the spoiler so the putty stays stuck to the car and doesn't stick to the spoiler
5. Align the spoiler and press into the putty, leaving an impression of the inserts.
6. Make a small mark on the car in the center of each of the inserts immpressions (the hole that the stud or bolt goes into)
7. Repeat steps 4 to 6 to make sure you got it right (measure twice drill/cut once)
8. Drill the four holes slightly larger than 6mm to allow for some final adjustment.
9. Touch up the exposed bare metal with paint so no rust will form.
10. Line the backside outer edges of the spoiler with double sided tape being careful not to cross over the center channel for water drainage. DO NOT REMOVE THE TAPE BACKING
12. place the center piece on the car and using 6mm bolts of the apporiate length, insert from inside the hatch and snug the bolts.
13. Check the placement of the spoiler on the car.
14. If good remove the spoiler, remove the backing on the double sided tape and install using loctite on the bolts - tightened firmly but not overly tight.

15. Repeat steps above for the end pieces aligning them with the center piece and inserting one bolt from the inside of the rear quarter accessable above the tail light once it's removed.

I'd suspect any good body shop would prep and paint the spoiler for a $200 -$300 and with a little care mounting it on the car should be fairly easy for anyone willing to do so.

[breetime]

I'm pumped on this. I will be ordering tonight

[CMM3]

checked in with John at AIR to see how sales were going from him.
surprised to hear he hasn't sold any.
All the interest and now that they are available - crickets???

[dcrothers]

I am truly wanting to get one. I just can't spend the money right now.
My trunkfloor/subframe is in need of some help.

[jajou318]

checked in with John at AIR to see how sales were going from him.
surprised to hear he hasn't sold any.
All the interest and now that they are available - crickets???

Is it only advertised here?

[CMM3]

Is it only advertised here?

yes, I'm not a member of other forums, please feel free to spread the word elsewhere.

[BenFenner]

All the interest and now that they are available - crickets???

This is exactly my observation.

No comment.

[tractorcrusher]

I'd like to offer my opinion on why these aren't selling (yet)-

1. They became available too quickly, compared to other things that were made on this forum. Members probably said they'd buy one, but didn't expect them to be available this quickly.
2. It's January and people don't necessarily want to spend the money since it's right after the holidays.
3. Installation is more than just DIY.

These are awesome, and I'm glad someone finally was able to produce them... but I think the timing just hasn't been right just yet. They'll start selling, it's just a matter of when.

[BimmerBreaker]

I dont want to be the one to say this but since I usually am... I will be brutally honest here - I think the price is affecting the ability to sell them. Your talking at least $550 painted and installed, to install something that cant just be easily removed and permanently alters the look of the car.

Plus I think its a matter of taste, I think a lot of people (myself included) prefer the stock look

And its right after Christmas, everyone is scrambling to pay off Christmas debts, not a lot of people looking to spoil themselves with a $500+ replica part. If your talking CF and high quality paint, you could be talking $1000 for a replica part. Thats about 1/10th the value of some of these cars.

[KeysCoupe]

I have to agree with BimmerBreaker here. I think price is keeping sales down. A whole aftermarket fiberglass hood can be had for less than twice the price of the spoilers, and they even fit pretty well.
It also doesn't help that the originals, when available a couple years back, were less than $250 at the dealer.

[yash]

These things are usually low on the to do list if car isn't tip top.
Though coveted no sensible individual would skip a clutch job etc for this .... Personally the total price installed pointed me to other areas of my car.

Sent from the palm of my hands by scientific means