Un-Official bf.c Z3 Performance and Power Rankings

[clintjg]

Ok guy's and gal's I'll try to keep up with the new version of this 'ole thread.

In order to be added to the list you must post your Screen-name/power/times/car/setup in the same format that's used below. Sorry, it's just a PITA to format everyone's numbers and times individually, help a brother out.

For Power:
screen name: ### hp; ### lb-ft (xx FI;/y)

Where by:
## = WHP and RWTorque number
xx = 'S' for a motorsport engine (S50-S52-S54) or 'M' for a standard engine (M52-M54)
FI = Forced induction (if any: Turbo-CF-TS)
y = Z3 Model (7 for Roadsters 8 for coupes)

For Pass times:
screen name: Time @ MPH (xx;/y)

Confirmed numbers only - not speculation. Post a dyno sheet or timeslip if you've got one (please format the image for page width). I'd like to add a 60-130 V-box run catagory at some point too.



Old thread:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...ad.php?t=30535

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OK, this is to keep track of the power put down and the times put up by our cars on the dyno and at the track. if you have numbers, please post them!


TOP Z3 RWHP Ranks (all)
1. George K.: ICS Twin Turbo M Coupe, 742 hp; 599 lb-ft (S52;/8)
2. Z3speed4me: 623.6.12 hp; 516.1 lb-ft (S52 Max Psi Turbo Kit;/8)
3. jonesmechanical(OZ3M): 610.12 hp; 535.33 lb-ft (S52 AA Turbo;/8)
4. moadster: 563.34 hp; 484.3 lb-ft (S52 turbo;/7)
5. Rukman: 546.35 hp; 488.05 lb-ft (S52 TT Stage 3+;/8)
6: ShawnsM: 545.7 hp; 582 lb-ft (S52 turbo;/7)
7. turboz3: 537 hp; 505 lb-ft (S52 turbo;/7)
8. mcoupemindy: 531.28 hp; 511.11 lb-ft (S52 Turbo;/8)
9. clintjg: 509 hp: 320 lb-ft (S54 CF Charger;/8)
10. CDCJON551: 504 hp; 516 lb-ft (S52 turbo;/8)
11. bimmerpwr: 496 hp; 361 lb-ft (S54 CF Charger;/7)
12. MC28REPSOL: 461.06 hp, 322.54 lb-ft (S54, CF Charger;/8)
13. JMC: 444whp; 384 lb-ft (S52 AA TS;/8)
14. Z3speed4me: 430.4 hp; 397.8 lb-ft (S52 TT Stage 2 (35R);/8)
15. nps52: 427.39 hp; 361.37 lb-ft (S52 AA HKS II S/C)
16. mcoupemindy: 427 hp; 332.01 lb-ft (S52 Turbo;/8)
17. Ferrarokid: 419 hp; 347 lb-ft (S52 RMS Stg III;/8)
18. Tazmanian Devil 393.8 hp; 306.4 lb-ft (s52 Vortech;/7)
19. Neil: 389 hp; 310 lb-ft (S52 TS;/8)
20. mcoupemindy: 386.53 hp; 328.51 lb-ft (S52 Vortech;/8)
21. ///M Roadster: 385.2 hp; 307.4 lb-ft (S52 RMS Stg III;/7)
22. CLWNSHU: 381 hp; 325 lb-ft (S52 AA HKS Stg. 2;/8)
23. Juker008: 368.62 hp; 323.69 lb-ft (S52 turbo;/8)
24. Terry F.: 368hp; 278 lb-ft (S52 RMS-Stg 2;/7)
25. Gday mm8: 353.8 hp; 289.2 lb-ft (S52 RMS Stg II;/7)
26. tonym: 348 hp; 325 lb-ft (S52 turbo;/7)
27. ///MDex: 330 hp; 280 lb-ft (S52 s/c;/8)
28. lcjhnsn: 322 hp; 290 lb-ft (S52 AA C30 FI;/7)
29. rf900rkw: 322.26 whp: 269.42 ft-lbs (S52 Vortech, /7)
30. SilverStreak: 321.2 hp; 290.3 lb-ft (3.0 RMS Stg II;/7)
31. Ryan C: 310.37 hp; 261.05 lb-ft (S52;/8)
32. paradigmx: 306hp; 269 lb-ft (S52; CF/7)
33. DakarDave: 303.56 hp; 260.69 lb-ft (2.8 RMS Stg II;/7)
34. MCoupeMike: 302.79 hp, 263.16 lb-ft (S52;/8)
35. kabel: 300.90 hp; 260.39 lb-ft (S52 AA SC;/8)
36. Ferris: 297.4 hp, 249.7 lb-ft (S54;/7)
37. CoMZ302: 284.6 hp; 242.8 lb-ft (S52;/7)
38. speedr: 284.5 hp; 260.4 lb-ft (S54;/7)
39. Mthusiast: 268.4 hp; 235.1 lb-ft (S54;/8)
40. gbrown.dsl: 267.5 hp; 222 lb-ft (S54;/8)
41. BlueM3Racer: 266.7 hp (S54;/8)
42. mcoupe197: 264.4 hp; 235 lb-ft (S54;/8)
43. IslandS52: 258.22 hp; 226.31 lb-ft (S54;/8)
44. luciano136: 249 hp, 213 lb-ft (M52;VF-CF;/7)
45. Mscire2: 241 hp; 228 lb-ft (S54 Stock;/8)
46. erbillingsley 231.38 hp; 220.90 lb-ft (S52;/7)
47. RkitOut: 228.8 hp; 217.2 lb-ft (S52;/8)
48. robrez: 228.18 hp; 207.25 lb-tq (M54;/8)
49. J10B: 224 hp; 227.2 lb-ft (S52;/7)
50. MGRMLN: 223.2 hp; 230.4 lb-ft (S52;/8)
51. Mini-///M: 222.4 hp; 222.6 lb-ft (S52;/8)
52. Rook: 221.4 hp; 222.4 lb-ft (S52;/8)
53. Jamesons Viggen: 220 whp; 213 lb-ft (S52 NA/7)
54. kem: 219 hp; 222 lb-ft (S52;/8)
55. SUNZOUT:217.42 hp; 208.54 lb-ft (s52;7)
56. Unicron: 217.2 hp; 220.5 lb-ft (S52;/8)
57. StarReaver: 217.4 hp; 216.6 lb-ft (S52/8)
58. DVDoughboy: 216 hp; 222.9 lb-ft (S52;/8)
59. PDX M Coupe: 214 hp; 220 lb-ft (S52;/8)
60. Renee M Coupe: 214.0 hp; 208.2 lb-ft (S52;/8)
61. Gibber66: 202.7 hp and 188.3 tq (2.8 M52;/7)
62. SvenOdin: 184.6 hp and 162.3 tq (1.9 DASC;/7)
63. J10B: 180.9 hp; 160.4 lb-ft (1.9 DASC; /7)

TOP Z3 RWHP Ranks (N/A only)
1. Clintjg: 310 hp, 257 lb-ft (S54;/8)
2. Ferris: 297.4 hp, 249.7 lb-ft (S54;/7)
3. CoMZ302: 284.6 hp; 242.8 lb-ft (S52;/7)
4. speedr: 284.5 hp; 260.4 lb-ft (S54;/7)
5. gbrown.dsl: 267.5 hp; 222 lb-ft (S54;/8)
6. BlueM3Racer: 266.7 hp (S54;/8)
7. mcoupe197: 264.4 hp; 235 lb-ft (S54;/8)
8. IslandS52: 258.22 hp; 226.31 lb-ft (S54;/8)
9. Z3speed4me: 233.2 hp; 217.2 lb-ft (s52;8)
10. erbillingsley 231.38 hp; 220.90 lb-ft (S52;/7)
11. RkitOut: 228.8 hp; 217.2 lb-ft (S52;/8)
12. robrez: 228.18 hp; 207.25 lb-tq (M54;/8)
13. Gday mm8: 224.5 hp; 224.6 lb-ft (S52;/7)
14. Mpower007: 224 hp, 229 lb-ft (S52;/7)
15. J10B: 224 hp; 227.2 lb-ft (S52;/7)
16. Z3speed4me; 223.6 hp; 225.05 lb-ft (S52;/8)
17. MGRMLN: 223.2 hp; 230.4 lb-ft (S52;/8)
18. Ryan C: 222.5 hp; 221.5 lb-ft (S52;/8)
19. Rook: 221.4 hp; 222.4 lb-ft (S52;/8)
20. Juker008: 221.0 hp; 210 lb-ft (S52;/8)
21. Jamesons Viggen: 220 whp; 213 lb-ft (S52 NA/7)
22. m3chaser: 220hp; 210lb-ft (S52 NA/8)
23. kem: 219 hp; 222 lb-ft (S52;/8)
24. StarReaver: 217.4 hp; 216.6 lb-ft (S52/8)
25. Unicron: 217.2 hp; 220.5 lb-ft (S52;/8)
26. DVDoughboy: 216 hp; 222.9 lb-ft (S52;/8)
27. PDX M Coupe: 214 hp; 220 lb-ft (S52;/8)
28. Renee M Coupe: 214.0 hp; 208.2 lb-ft (S52;/8)
29. Gibber66: 202.7 hp and 188.3 tq (2.8 M52;/7)
30. TexaZ3: 201.2 hp, 207 lb-ft, (S52;/8)
31: SilverStreak: 198.1 hp, 193.3 lb-ft (3.0;/7)


TOP Quarter-Mile E/T
1. MrBlonde: 10.775 @ 134.35 (S50 B32 TC;/8)
2. ShawnsM: 11.115 @ 129 (S52 turbo;/7)
3. moadster: 11.49 @ 130.4 (S52 turbo;/7)
4. SilverStreak: 11.71 @ 115.6 (current 3.0;/7)
5. Neil: 12.501@116 mph (S52 TS;/8)
6. SilverStreak: 12.56 @ 109.1 (S54;/7)
7. mcoupemindy: 12.622 @ 111.48 (S52 Vortech;/8)
8. Juker008: 12.977 @ 110 MPH (S52 turbo;8)
9. speedr: 12.98 @ 107.23 (S54;/7)
10. ///M Roadster: 13.004 @ 111.44 (RMS Stg III S52;/7)
11. MCoupeMike: 13.1 @ 107 (S/C'ed S52;/8)
12. mcoupe197: 13.194 @ 105.44 (S54;/8)
13. gbrown.dsl: 13.2 @ 109 (S54;/8)
14. m3chaser: 13.29 @ 102.45 (S52;/8)
15. sab0276: 13.398@102.06mph (S52;/7- shark inj only)
16. RyanC: 13.449 @ 107.24 (S52;/8)
17. BMWMROADSTER: 13.462 @ 104.63 (40-shot S52;/7)
18. Z Couper: 13.581 @ 99.21 (S52;/7)
19. SilverStreak: 13.65 @ 99.1 (stock 3.0 w/ DR;/7)
20. SilverStreak: 13.89 @ 99.6 (showroom 3.0;/7)
21. Mpower007: 14.1 @ 97 (S52;/7)
22. Juker008: 14.2 @ 96 mph (S52;/8)
23. Gibber66: 14.215 @ 97.53 mph (M52;/7)
24. SvenOdin: 14.96 @ 89.51mph (1.9 DASC;/7)
25. AmZdriver: 15.16 @ 91.5 mph (1.9 DASC;/7)


TOP Eighth-Mile E/T
1. MrBlonde: 7.092 @ 104.92 (S50 B32 TC;/8)
2. SilverStreak: 7.461 @ 93.41 (current 3.0;/7)
3. moadster: 7.6343 @ 101.01 (S52 turbo;/7)
4. mcoupemindy: 8.278 @ 90.43 (S52 Vortech;/8)
5. m3chaser: 8.41 @ 81.5 (S52;/8)
6. Z Couper: 8.466 @ 81.19 (S52;/7)
7. Juker008: 8.481 @ 87.30 (S52 turbo;8)
8. BMWMROADSTER: 8.756 @ 81.91 (40-shot S52;/7)
9. RyanC: 8.882 @ 86.52 (S52;/8)


Updated 21 Feb 2013

[Terry F.]

Terry F.: 368hp; 278 lb-ft (S52 RMS-Stg 2;/7)

[paradigmX]

306rwhp and 269rwtq

[TexaZ3]

TexaZ3, 201.2 RWHP, 207 RWTQ, S52 w/Conforti Shark & CAI and B&B Exhaust.

[z3papa]

Everytime I've looked at those numbers, I am always amazed at how fast Silverstreak was relative to his HP numbers. Compare his times for his car at any stage relative to the vehicles above and below and you can tell he knew how to obtain max performance out of any car.

[Z3speed4me]

YAY for Clint!!! Glad to see someone is taking this thread over.

For comparison purposes......

My car:





and he nor anyone else has posted it, hope he doesn't mind considering that I don't think this particular sheet was ever posted before.

Rukman's car, sometime last year:

[Iceman00]

Iceman00
Do I get a cookie for being the most powerful M52Tu?

M52tuB2
Intake and Header

[m3chaser]

1/4 mile slip:



1/4 mile vid:

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Can't find my dyno sheet, but the car made 220rwhp and 210rwhp with my current mods.

[MarcMacZ3]

Iceman00
Do I get a cookie for being the most powerful M52Tu?

M52tuB2
Intake and Header

Id hope so as those are nice numbers. Gives me an idea of what to expect

[m3chaser]

Id hope so as those are nice numbers. Gives me an idea of what to expect

He needs to get to the track to support those dyno numbers. Trap speeds don't lie, but dyno numbers can lie.

[MarcMacZ3]

True. I honestly dont expect to trap lower than sub 14s. And thats a hopeful statement as Im farely unexperienced as a drag racer

[erbillingsley]

erbillingsley 231.38 hp, 220.90 Torque (S52 Roadster)
98 M Roadster (S52) SuperSprint exhaust, M50 manif, intake is fogged, Sharked.

[m3chaser]

True. I honestly dont expect to trap lower than sub 14s. And thats a hopeful statement as Im farely unexperienced as a drag racer

ET is based on how good your 60ft is and how quickly you can shift and where you shift. Normally for our cars redline is your best bet unless your dyno tells you that you are making your most power before redline.

The trap speed is what will back up your dyno sheet. Iceman00 essentially makes the same rwhp and tq as me so he should be able to trap very close to what I am trapping within a mph or 2. If he traps something like 98mph then his dyno sheet is lying. I have every confidence that he can trap 100mph though and I hope he proves me right sooner rather than later .

[Iceman00]

ET is based on how good your 60ft is and how quickly you can shift and where you shift. Normally for our cars redline is your best bet unless your dyno tells you that you are making your most power before redline.

The trap speed is what will back up your dyno sheet. Iceman00 essentially makes the same rwhp and tq as me so he should be able to trap very close to what I am trapping within a mph or 2. If he traps something like 98mph then his dyno sheet is lying. I have every confidence that he can trap 100mph though and I hope he proves me right sooner rather than later .

Eh, I'm not too sure. I could tick off 91mph+ traps when I was stockish with the intake, even with a supposed 20whp more (and then some with the new manifold) I don't know that I picked up 7-9mph. But that said, I do run with quick company.

[m3chaser]

Eh, I'm not too sure. I could tick off 91mph+ traps when I was stockish with the intake, even with a supposed 20whp more (and then some with the new manifold) I don't know that I picked up 7-9mph. But that said, I do run with quick company.

What dyno did you pull the 210rwhp number on? When I was stock I made 200rwhp and was trapping 100mph. With the M50 mani and the catback I gained 2.5mph which did back up my dyno number I have now. Normally 10rwhp will give you about 1mph in the 1/4 mile so with 20rwhp I gained 2.5mph. However the gears help with that as well.

What diff do you have in your car?

[Iceman00]

What dyno did you pull the 210rwhp number on? When I was stock I made 200rwhp and was trapping 100mph. With the M50 mani and the catback I gained 2.5mph which did back up my dyno number I have now. Normally 10rwhp will give you about 1mph in the 1/4 mile so with 20rwhp I gained 2.5mph. However the gears help with that as well.

What diff do you have in your car?

Stock diff.
First dyno I pulled 185 with just a custom intake, it's a Land and Sea dyno I think. The second dyno (I just added headers, and on the same dyno) I made 210. No gears, no tuning, nothing else. But now I'm sure my maf is in pretty rough shape, so I dunno what will happen now.

[nps52]

nps52: 427.39 hp @ 7000; 361.37 lb-ft @ 4000 (S52 AA HKS II S/C)

[m3chaser]

nps52: 427.39 hp @ 7000; 361.37 lb-ft @ 4000 (S52 AA HKS II S/C)

Wow! Didn't realize that HKS SC put out that much HP!

[robrez]

robrez: 228.18 RWHP, 207.25 TQ (M54 3.0 coupe, cams, tune, and bolt-ons)

[MrBlonde]

Everytime I've looked at those numbers, I am always amazed at how fast Silverstreak was relative to his HP numbers. Compare his times for his car at any stage relative to the vehicles above and below and you can tell he knew how to obtain max performance out of any car.

Dave had close to 10,000 passes at a drag strip when he ran those numbers. He's the Master and my inspiration.

[SunzOut]

Maybe time to update the list and get rid of some of the carsthat are no longr around?

Also I looked up CoMZ302 and his posts suggest he had an S54 and not S52 therefore making is NA number much more in line with the other cars.

[mcoupemindy]

mcoupemindy: 386.53 hp; 328.51 lb-ft (S52 Vortech;/8)

[jonesmechanical]

OZ3M=jonesmechanical now. Here is the most recent graph that Omar had in the thick receipt list. I spent presidents day wiring in a new M&W CDI Box. Not running yet, just need to hookup the laptop and verify TDC and check the timing batches. So....currently 0 RWHP. With the help of Mike Radowski it will be happy again.

Omar said that the dyno that he had did not reflect the most recent updates (back in 2005). He claimed it was making about 660 wheel at 22 psi after the AEM and Water/Alky injection was tuned. I believe it, but it will be fun to verify. Although not a huge fan, I have a few friends that have been begging me to run it at the local 1/4 mile track. I am curious to see how a complete newbie can do with such a capable car. For me, I would rather have drive a 200 hp on a road course than a 750 hp car on a drag strip (even though I am a fan of watching Pass Time on Speed).



Clint, where is your car?

[Z3speed4me]

Still would like to see what it traps, prob 140ish+

As for Clint, I don't think he ever officially dyno'd his car, surprisingly.

[jonesmechanical]

In the PBMW feature, Omar was quoted in saying he ran it only once, taking it easy on the car running street tires (315 30 18 pilots sports) and it ran 11.6 @ 131. I know that going to the track can be very humbling, but honestly, I would go, and just focus on a good trap speed ignoring the lights. You can deduce then what the car would run with an average 60' time.

One of my best friends built a 1600 lb lotus "locost" with a sr20det motor running a gt3071 turbo. It even had 345 30 18 pilot sport cups (yea, not exactly a drag tire) he was over 350 wheel on a lower boost setting. He ran a 16.1 . Lots of traction issues, even with race logic running, it would just make him really slow.