SRT-4 vs M3

**Kevlar** · 03-02-2003, 01:38 AM

I pull up behind this SRT-4 Dodge Neon... you know, the fast one... at a traffic light. Thinking it's still new, I don't even think twice about it (raced a new one before ... easy killing). Anyway, light goes green... and he moves off and I move off... and as there is space around him, I change lanes and start to draw out 3rd gear to make my pass. Well, I get about to the rear quarter panel and this guy romps on it.

Dazed and confused... I put my foot down in 3rd which is now just starting to come to life, but the Neon is already about a car ahead, but I'm closing the gap... then, voila!

Red light ahead. I jump on the binders and we both pull up to the light at the same time. I asked him if that the new SRT4 ... I already knew it was cause ... damn, heard that turbo exhaust. We make some brief small talk... while I am frantically searching for the DSC button and sport button with my right hand.

Opposing light goes yellow, I don't think he notices cause we are still talking. Our light turns green and we are still talking so I give him the wave and pull away very slowly in 1st gear. We roll off about the same and just as I crawl up to 3000rpm in first, he romps on it.

He he... I knew he wanted some!

I romp on first gear... back tires start spinning... argh! Neon pulls on me half a car. He grabs 2nd while I'm still going through first. I hit 2nd gear ... H A R D! Tires loose grip and I drop back to 1/2 car negating any ground I made up in first. As I'm spinning 2nd I make a mental note ... Ya know, I probably should start saving for new tires. Finally power makes it to the ground and I start pulling on the guy 2nd gear we are nose and nose. I grab 3rd... BAM it's over. 3rd gear starts pulling on the Neon very nicely... Enough so that the Neon gets religated to my rear bumper by the end of 3rd. As I hit 4th, I shut it down.

He pulls up next to me and gives me the thumbs up and I wave. Those little cars are fast. And ya know what... the damn thing sounds pretty good while it was moving. Credit to Dodge to making a really nice sounding and hot performing small car. Now... let's see what happened when they start jacking up the boost

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**JMWeb** · 03-02-2003, 02:01 AM

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Nice one kev.. Got to master those launches...

Was it a yellow one? I tried to line up with one last week but traffic did not allow..

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Man! Everyone seems to have played today except me

**FrankW** · 03-02-2003, 02:33 AM

NICE one.

I feel your pain for new tires. Last night I was on my way to meet up with some friends for dinner, at the stoplight right before the light i'm suppose to make a left; a new Accord V6 coupe was on the leftside of me. I was planning to pass him and get into the left turn lane once the light turns green since I was the first car on the right lane. As the light turns green I floored it and he thought I was gonna race him, so he floored it too. The traction light came on and I couldn't go anywhere. Yeah, I lost to him and had to get behind him to get into the left turn lane. NEED new tires

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**Indigo02Z24** · 03-02-2003, 10:15 AM

Nice run Kev

BTW - All you E46 M3 Owners... I'm very jealous.

**QuestMCoupe** · 03-03-2003, 02:17 AM

Nice run Kev. I'm impressed by the sounds of that Neon...I really hope its not a car that I have to worry about. M Powered car losing to a Neon does not sound or look good.

**Sticky** · 03-03-2003, 02:51 AM

If you ever lose a race to a neon because of tires, we will tar and feather you.

**QuestMCoupe** · 03-03-2003, 03:54 AM

LOL Sticky.

**SilverStreak** · 03-03-2003, 10:44 AM

Nice work, Kev. Just imagine what you'd do to a 350Z... (

, bringing up my old 350Z/SRT-4 comparison of old....)

Gotta give Dodge some credit that any Neon from factory would make a new M3 even think about it for a second...

**Ron17** · 03-03-2003, 11:07 AM

Kev... this scares me. If you had that much trouble with an SRT-4, I wonder what I'd have happen?

I refuse to lose to a Neon!!!

**vjlax18** · 03-03-2003, 11:43 AM

But they are faster than the 350Z.... sorry.

**SilverStreak** · 03-03-2003, 11:53 AM

I know...

**Ron17** · 03-03-2003, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by vjlax18
But they are faster than the 350Z.... sorry.

That's not saying that much, though...

**SilverStreak** · 03-03-2003, 12:04 PM

Nope...

**///M3Love** · 03-03-2003, 01:02 PM

i lost to 60 mph to a deck out hatchback civic cause i tried racing with my snow tires on. needless to say i fishtail through the end of second.... that was so horrible, when i got traction in third i started to reel him in but it was still bad.

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**vjlax18** · 03-03-2003, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by ///M3Love
i lost to 60 mph to a deck out hatchback civic cause i tried racing with my snow tires on. needless to say i fishtail through the end of second.... that was so horrible, when i got traction in third i started to reel him in but it was still bad. :

Was it a silver widebody?

**Ron17** · 03-03-2003, 01:30 PM

Hmmm... isn't there a "hybrid" thread somewhere around here where y'all can talk about swapped hatches and whatnot?

**EMC** · 03-10-2003, 12:17 AM

Just wait until the neon gets a limited slip instead of running on ONE tire! And we are worried about traction?

I went for a spin in one last week. It would give my 332 a good run for its money in the straight line. Curves?...not a chance. If you are a good driver, you don't have to worry about those things at a track, unless it a drag strip.

**vjlax18** · 03-10-2003, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by EMC
Just wait until the neon gets a limited slip instead of running on ONE tire! And we are worried about traction?

I went for a spin in one last week. It would give my 332 a good run for its money in the straight line. Curves?...not a chance. If you are a good driver, you don't have to worry about those things at a track, unless it a drag strip.

Yeah!!!! We'll get them in the twisties!!!!!!!

**bimmer143** · 03-10-2003, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by vjlax18
Yeah!!!! We'll get them in the twisties!!!!!!!

Gotta love that line.........makes me laugh every time..

**abakos** · 03-10-2003, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by bimmer143
Gotta love that line.........makes me laugh every time..

Well...you gotta play your strengths

**AngelGT2000** · 03-10-2003, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Kevlar
Now... let's see what happened when they start jacking up the boost :

I think they've already got 3 stages worth of Mods. Stage 3 gives the SRT 300hp and 300lbs/tq

Here's the link
SRT Mods

off topic: JaWeb would you happen to have a buddy with a Silver M3 with some stickered writting. Reason i ask is cuz, awhile back ago, i met 2 M3 owners at Moroso and one of the cars looks like the one in your sig.

**Indigo02Z24** · 03-10-2003, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by AngelGT2000
I think they've already got 3 stages worth of Mods. Stage 3 gives the SRT 300hp and 300lbs/tq

Here's the link
SRT Mods

off topic: JaWeb would you happen to have a buddy with a Silver M3 with some stickered writting. Reason i ask is cuz, awhile back ago, i met 2 M3 owners at Moroso and one of the cars looks like the one in your sig.

Very impressive for a 4cyl. Pity it's FWD

**Rel44 M3** · 03-12-2003, 10:03 AM

And at an amazing pricepoint for that SRT4. Oh well, makes the drive over to the g/f's more interesting. It might call for a major mod sooner than I thought.