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  1. #751
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    Yeah stock Exhaust just a weird muffler the PO installed. I'll be going to mac auto sport sometime next month. I'll do some pulls there and report my findings since they post corrected numbers. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by fsmtnbiker View Post
    Stock exhaust?

    Mustang dyno's are incredibly inconsistent dyno-to-dyno. If you want numbers to compare with anyone else, a Dynojet is by far the most common and consistent. Dyno Pro up in Arvada has really reasonable rates for baseline dyno's and the owner Bear is a great guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnightfreak12 View Post
    Yeah stock Exhaust just a weird muffler the PO installed. I'll be going to mac auto sport sometime next month. I'll do some pulls there and report my findings since they post corrected numbers. :P
    Fairly low numbers with all those mods. That's close to a stock power output

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnightfreak12 View Post
    Yeah stock Exhaust just a weird muffler the PO installed. I'll be going to mac auto sport sometime next month. I'll do some pulls there and report my findings since they post corrected numbers. :P
    If it still has the stock 95 midpipe you're losing an easy 20+ hp. Especially with all the other mods on the car. Going to even some cheap headers (euro supersprint reps or similar) and a 3" exhaust on a car with as many mods as you've already got would probably be closer to 30whp up top.
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    1995 M3
    S54 swap (CA-legal), ~71k miles
    5 speed trans + 3.15 diff (long gears are long)
    Stock S54 US headers/Cats
    Stock Z3M air intake
    Factory tune
    Bimmerworld Y-pipe + Active Auto 3" Race Exhaust
    JB Racing 10lb flywheel + clutchmasters clutch

    287/241 whp/wtq. I am a little bummed that the dyno operator didn't go below 4k, but....some data is better than no data!


    SAE and AFR vs RPM. Lots of room for improvement!



    S54 above vs prior S50 (Turner Shorty headers, 3" AA Race exhaust, TRM tune + 21.5lb injectors, 3.5" intake, BW boot, LTW fly)



    Zoomed of same:


    Good baseline. Now time for mods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMW Mdrei View Post
    Year: 1995 M3
    Build Date: 10/94
    Stock S50

    Mods:
    - aFe 'Euro' Cold Air Intake
    - Euro 3.5" Bosch HFM / Mass Air Sensor
    - 3.5" BW Silicone Throttle Body Boot
    - STOCK Throttle Body
    - 21.5lb Fuel Injectors
    - TMS Performance Chip
    - TMS Power Pulley Kit
    - Fan Delete
    - Raceland Euro Headers with Custom Exhaust
    - JBR Aluminum Flywheel

    Date: February 21, 2013
    Dyno Type: DynoJet (Carb Connection - Kirkland, WA)
    Dyno Conditions: Temperature 52.54 °F, Humidity 48%
    Gear Dynoed: 4th with 3.38 Differential

    Peak HP: 221.12 SAE
    Peak Torque: 217.65 SAE



    Here’s a cleaner comparison between before (stock) and after (header w/ custom exhaust).

    I thought I should finally update this after installing the S52.

    Build Date: 10/94
    BSP Legal S52

    Mods:
    - aFe 'Euro' Cold Air Intake
    - Euro 3.5" Bosch HFM / Mass Air Sensor
    - 3.5" BW Silicone Throttle Body Boot
    - STOCK Throttle Body
    - 21.5lb Fuel Injectors
    - VAC Stage 1 Cylinder Head
    - TMS Performance Chip
    - TMS Power Pulley Kit
    - Fan Delete
    - Raceland Euro Headers with Custom Exhaust
    - JBR Aluminum Flywheel

    Date: June 13, 2015
    Dyno Type: DynoJet (Carb Connection - Kirkland, WA)
    Dyno Conditions: Temperature 69 °F, Humidity 49%
    Gear Dynoed: 4th with 3.38 Differential

    Peak HP: 233.37 SAE
    Peak Torque: 222.45 SAE

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    Last edited by BMW Mdrei; 04-19-2016 at 05:26 PM.
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    Finally got my 'new to me' E36 dyno'd.


    Build Date: 12/96
    E36 M3/4/6 (swap from E46 M3)

    Mods:
    - aFe Dry Intake
    - Porsche 803 3.5" MAF
    - 3.5" BimmerWorld Intake Boot
    - Bored Throttle Body
    - M50 Manifold
    - 24lb Fuel Injectors
    - TRM OTS Tuned ECU
    - Fan Delete
    - JP Shorty Headers
    - Lightweight Flywheel
    - Racing Dynamics Axleback Exhaust

    Date: October 8, 2016
    Dyno Type: DynoJet (BPC Raleigh, NC)
    Dyno Conditions: 70 °F, Raining
    Gear Dynoed: 4th with 3.73 Differential

    Peak HP: 240.82 SAE
    Peak Torque: 232.17 SAE

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    Year: 1997
    Build Date: 4/97
    Mods: Remus Cat-Back, Electric Fan conversion, possible tune (unknown by previous owner)
    Dyno Type: Dynocom AWD 5000
    Dyno Conditions: 64F, 23% Humidity
    Gear Dynoed: 5th with 3.23 diff
    Peak HP: 222.2whp (255.6bhp) @ 6400rpm
    Peak Torque: 207.2ftlbs (238.3ftlbs engine torque)@ 4200rpm

    Not sure if these are SAE numbers or how accurate the engine hp/tq estimation is (first time at the dyno). Saw that the printout contains a CF (correction factor?) of 1.00, but I'm not sure if that means it's a true hp representation or if it wasn't adjusted.

    Not sure how accurate the reading is but if it's at least close I'm pretty happy that I haven't lost too many ponies over the course of almost 20 years


    20161125_194921 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/139048655@N07/]
    Last edited by LockDots; 12-15-2016 at 05:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LockDots View Post
    Peak Torque: 207.2ftlbs (283.3ftlbs engine torque)@ 4200rpm
    I think you mixed up the 8 and the 3!! :p

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    Sure did lol, fixed.

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    Dyno chart is here: http://imgur.com/W8dBdFZ


    232whp/216wtq

    Power mods are:
    Cosmos 3.5" intake
    ASC delete
    M50 manifold
    Becker long-tube headers
    Modified midpipe/stock cats
    B&B Triflo catback
    Markert Motor Works dyno tune



    Needless to say, I'm a very happy man. The car now makes as much or more power from 5500-7000rpm than it did at its peak of 6500rpm pre-tune. And keep in mind, this tune was applied after the DME had 150+ miles to get used to the M50 manifold and headers, so realistically it probably jumped from 215ish to 235ish with the manifolds and the tune.

    I'm really curious to see what I could make at the top end with no cats... but I like being street-legal.

    '96 M3 - M50 Manifold - Markert Motor Works Tune - Becker Headers - Cosmos CAI - ASC Delete - B&B Triflo Exhaust - Carbotech XP24 Pads
    SS Brake Lines - Understeer SSK - BBS RX204 - Turner Fuel Pump Upgrade - Schroth Harnesses - Fluidyne Radiator
    Samco Hoses - Stewart HFWP - Ebay Strut Bar - Meyle Bushings - Brey-Krause Harness Bar - Ground Control Coilovers & Camber Plates - UUC front sway - X-brace
    Turner Adjustable End-Links - Euro 3-spoke Steering Wheel - Braum Racing Venom seats and 5-pt SFI Harnesses
    240whp/220wtq

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    So just gut them and weld the heat shields back on 😇

  12. #762
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakermac View Post
    Did you ever get the graphs? I'm very interested in seeing them, as well as knowing what rev-limit you're running.
    Sorry i just saw this.
    I will be strapping the car down again soon cause i installed new cams and need a retune.
    7K RPM
    I will dig out the requested graph for you.
    The older i get, the faster i was !

  13. #763
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    1999 S52

    Mods:

    - Porsche 803 3.5" MAF
    - 3.5" BimmerWorld Intake Boot
    - Big Bore Throttle Body
    - M50 Manifold
    - 24lb Fuel Injectors
    - RKTUNE OEM ECU
    - Fan Delete
    -SS Euro LT Headers
    - Lightweight Flywheel
    - Euro SS Midsection & Axle back
    -Custom Grind Cams
    -93 Octane
    -310WHP/286WTQ

    Last edited by img; 01-27-2017 at 06:44 PM.
    The older i get, the faster i was !

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    Quote Originally Posted by img View Post
    1999 S52

    Mods:

    - Porsche 803 3.5" MAF
    - 3.5" BimmerWorld Intake Boot
    - Big Bore Throttle Body
    - M50 Manifold
    - 24lb Fuel Injectors
    - RKTUNE OEM ECU
    - Fan Delete
    -SS Euro LT Headers
    - Lightweight Flywheel
    - Euro SS Midsection & Axle back
    -Custom Grind Cams
    -93 Octane
    -310WHP/286WTQ
    That is truly impressive. What size TB and can you elaborate on the cams?

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    As is the fact that what must be wild cams are making 235 lbs at 2750 rpm and peaking at 287 lbs. This is exceptional based on everything I have read over the past decade about modding these motors, but img knows what he is doing so I would enjoy reading about how he is achieving these results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakermac View Post
    That is truly impressive. What size TB and can you elaborate on the cams?
    Thank you !
    Riot racing BBTB, might try the bimmerworld for fun. Cams have been sitting in the shelf for over 3 years. They were ordered by my business partner who built the motor and never got around to installing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbonsalb View Post
    As is the fact that what must be wild cams are making 235 lbs at 2750 rpm and peaking at 287 lbs. This is exceptional based on everything I have read over the past decade about modding these motors, but img knows what he is doing so I would enjoy reading about how he is achieving these results.
    Thank you !
    i will do a write up at some point if I can remember all the details. Engine was built back in 2003 and has over 150k since the build but always made power.
    The older i get, the faster i was !

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    Quote Originally Posted by img View Post
    Thank you !
    Riot racing BBTB, might try the bimmerworld for fun. Cams have been sitting in the shelf for over 3 years. They were ordered by my business partner who built the motor and never got around to installing them.
    I'm about to switch to a VAC75mm from my RRBBTB to see if the top end pics up at all. I'm also about to receive my custom header build from Zack at 22RPD.com. I'd be VERRYYY interested in cam info. I'm down 200cc from your motor, but if I could see another 20ft/lbs+ in the lower rev range, I'd be all over that! Is the motor solid lifter or still hydraulic?


  18. #768
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    Quote Originally Posted by img View Post
    Thank you !
    Riot racing BBTB, might try the bimmerworld for fun. Cams have been sitting in the shelf for over 3 years. They were ordered by my business partner who built the motor and never got around to installing them.

    - - - Updated - - -


    Thank you !
    i will do a write up at some point if I can remember all the details. Engine was built back in 2003 and has over 150k since the build but always made power.
    You are making way more torque than a dual vanos S54. It just doesn't make sense. To make that kind of horsepower on an S52, you need wild cams that sacrifice torque.

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    1998 s52 190xxxx miles


    Mods:
    M50 mani
    24lb injector
    Dinan cold air intake
    803 maf
    Fan delete
    Bbtb riot racing
    Ebay headers
    Cat delete
    Rouge engineering exhaust
    Rk tunes

    SAE corrected
    237 whp
    222 wtq

    unfortunately jordan said his dyno is reading low due to him not being to recalculate the weight of the roller
    but the car feels amazing no complaints

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    Stock MAF
    ASC delete, otherwise stock throttle body
    M50 Intake
    Unknown long tube headers
    Bimmerworld conversion pipe
    AA track pipe
    AA Gen3 exhaust
    Epic Motorsports tune
    Stock cams
    UUC underdrive pullies

    Dynojet, corrected for altitiude, dyno done at 6000ft above sea level
    236.41 rwhp, 227.80 wheel torque

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    Quote Originally Posted by img View Post
    1999 S52

    Mods:

    - Porsche 803 3.5" MAF
    - 3.5" BimmerWorld Intake Boot
    - Big Bore Throttle Body
    - M50 Manifold
    - 24lb Fuel Injectors
    - RKTUNE OEM ECU
    - Fan Delete
    -SS Euro LT Headers
    - Lightweight Flywheel
    - Euro SS Midsection & Axle back
    -Custom Grind Cams
    -93 Octane
    -310WHP/286WTQ

    Gauranteed he is using high compression pistons to get those kind of numbers. Or leaving out the fact that he has a supercharger ��


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    I have been waiting years to post onto this section... I have read, I have guessed, I have hoped.. Quick introduction before I get to my numbers. I recently graduated college and have had my 98 m3 since the start of college and have always dreamed of making more power and throwing it on the dyno. Turns out, all I needed to do was money shift and bend all the exhaust valves (plus a job to make money and then throw it all into the car of course!). But to do this, I had to sit and wait 5 months to have the money to throw at this thing. And simply put, I am a very happy camper! The car is a beast and the tuning done by Dave Markert at Markert Motorworks in Atlanta was solid. So here are the mods and numbers!

    (I'm going to post this and update with videos and dyno graphs as I get them loaded!)

    Year:
    -1998 M3/2/5
    Build Date:
    -4/98
    Mods:
    -K&N Filter
    -3" Autozone 45' elbow
    -stock MAF
    -3" silicon elbow
    -stock throttle body
    -Schrick 276/270 cams
    -Supertech Springs
    -Raceland Headers to custom 3" exhaust w/ Vibrant Resonator and straight through muffler
    -Markert Motorworks tune
    -Fidanza? Flywheel to stock clutch
    Dyno Type:
    -DynoJet
    Dyno Conditions:
    -83 F
    -37.x Humidity
    -600ft of elevation
    Gear Dynoed:
    -4th
    Peak HP:
    -
    263.99whp
    Peak TQ:

    -239.75wtq


    Note that these numbers were achieved with the stock MAF maxing out at 6k rpm and then tuning the gap between 6k-7.2k rpm. With a euro MAF, 3.5" intake, and BBTB, I'm hoping for 5-10whp more than this!

    Also, Dave was able to tune in launch control and burble tune (just for fun and can be turned off and on). Videos to come!

    Graph:
    IMG_1258.jpg

    Exhaust Clip:
    https://youtu.be/eNFeWX7DECU

    Burble Tune Exhaust:

    https://youtu.be/w4fmp6H5iHA

    Launch Control Video:
    https://youtu.be/47avLEhO-zQ
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    Last edited by dhughes; 06-08-2017 at 08:50 PM.
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    264whp/239wtq

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  23. #773
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. M3 View Post
    Gauranteed he is using high compression pistons to get those kind of numbers. Or leaving out the fact that he has a supercharger ��
    Seems like a few suspicious things being omitted. It's definitely not a 3.2L engine you dont make that torque from 3.2l with those specs. The s54 requires a built stroker 3.4/3.5L custom cams or not . Also with only 24lb injectors must be running them at higher pressure than stock ?

  24. #774
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhughes View Post
    So here are the mods and numbers!

    Year:
    -1998 M3/2/5
    Build Date:
    -4/98
    Mods:
    -K&N Filter
    -3" Autozone 45' elbow
    -stock MAF
    -3" silicon elbow
    -stock throttle body
    -Schrick 276/270 cams
    -Supertech Springs
    -Raceland Headers to custom 3" exhaust w/ Vibrant Resonator and straight through muffler
    -Markert Motorworks tune
    -Fidanza? Flywheel to stock clutch
    Dyno Type:
    -DynoJet
    Dyno Conditions:
    -83 F
    -37.x Humidity
    -600ft of elevation
    Gear Dynoed:
    -4th
    Peak HP:
    -
    263.99whp
    Peak TQ:

    -239.75wtq


    Note that these numbers were achieved with the stock MAF maxing out at 6k rpm and then tuning the gap between 6k-7.2k rpm. With a euro MAF, 3.5" intake, and BBTB, I'm hoping for 5-10whp more than this!

    Also, Dave was able to tune in launch control and burble tune (just for fun and can be turned off and on). Videos to come!

    Graph:
    IMG_1258.jpg
    ]
    Stock manifold or M50?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbonsalb View Post
    stock manifold or m50?
    m50
    460whp/515wtq wifes MMW tuned 335i

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