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    Lauda has reported that Bottas and Waahmilton are completely free to race against each other with no restrictions. 'As before', nothing has changed.
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    Also, as probably already mentioned: Bottas' contract is only for one season. So the pressure is on. No reason for Mercedes to tie their hands I guess.

    Heikki Kovalainen tried to get Bottas' old spot at Williams instead of Massa, no surprise that he didn't succeed...
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    Bottas is not better than Rosberg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakentt View Post
    Bottas is not better than Rosberg.
    I've got lousy memory, but I recall Bottas putting up more fights in a less superior car than Rosberb, in a far superior car.

    If I'm wrong, the world will still spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakentt View Post
    Bottas is not better than Rosberg.
    The main thing is that they're both better than Hamilton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RidgeBack View Post
    Shame....


    The audacity to only go to a contending team

    Yeah - Horner has been trying to get in touch with you for weeks now!

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    He tried to send emails to Horner but he crashed his computer...
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    Can someone explain to me how the hell he won the Spanish GP back in 2012? To this day I haven't heard a really satisfactory explanation other than it was just a perfect storm...
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    Maybe he got lucky winning that GP.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MagneZium View Post
    He tried to send emails to Horner but he crashed his computer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoldUlysses View Post
    Can someone explain to me how the hell he won the Spanish GP back in 2012? To this day I haven't heard a really satisfactory explanation other than it was just a perfect storm...
    This isn't a popular view but here's my 2 cents:

    It was about tires. Back in '12 the tires were a complete unknown. None, not a single one, of the teams knew anything about tire degradation, operating temp windows were so slim and variable (track surface, track temp, easily grained, huge degradation cliffs). Tires would hit cliffs when they still thought they had 4-10 laps left and cars would suddenly be lapping 2-4 seconds slower lap after lap. It was black magic, in that nobody knew how to keep the tires in their operating temp window. The Williams chassis was very very good on the tires and therefore kept grip for much longer without degrading them. They did not know why and that was why it was never repeatable. But it allowed them this single victory. Pastor kept it on the track too... racing against Alonso... so he gets those Kudos. But in reality, it was the williams unknown, unrepeatable, suddenly perfect operation of the tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagneZium View Post
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    Ecclestone almost gone. Liberty Media is about to take over. I predict death of F1 within 5 years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RidgeBack View Post
    This isn't a popular view but here's my 2 cents:

    It was about tires. Back in '12 the tires were a complete unknown. None, not a single one, of the teams knew anything about tire degradation, operating temp windows were so slim and variable (track surface, track temp, easily grained, huge degradation cliffs). Tires would hit cliffs when they still thought they had 4-10 laps left and cars would suddenly be lapping 2-4 seconds slower lap after lap. It was black magic, in that nobody knew how to keep the tires in their operating temp window. The Williams chassis was very very good on the tires and therefore kept grip for much longer without degrading them. They did not know why and that was why it was never repeatable. But it allowed them this single victory. Pastor kept it on the track too... racing against Alonso... so he gets those Kudos. But in reality, it was the williams unknown, unrepeatable, suddenly perfect operation of the tires.
    Good insight. Can you remind me what changed about the tires specifically in 2012 that rendered them an unknown quantity? They had to use 2 compounds per race before then, IIRC...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoldUlysses View Post
    Good insight. Can you remind me what changed about the tires specifically in 2012 that rendered them an unknown quantity? They had to use 2 compounds per race before then, IIRC...
    This was the first year of Pirelli's new tire after being mandated by the FIA to make them more degradable. Pirelli took a lot of flack about this but it was the FIA who mandated they change the compounds - for better racing. But, in fact, it just turned the races into a lottery of sorts because no-one understood the new tires.

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    Wasn't 2012 also the same year when a major change in tire manufacturing process came about mid year through?



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    Quote Originally Posted by hakentt View Post
    Ecclestone almost gone. Liberty Media is about to take over. I predict death of F1 within 5 years!
    Maybe not the death of the brand name, but I'm sure they'll do everything they can to sell the soul of F1 as fast as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakentt View Post
    Ecclestone almost gone. Liberty Media is about to take over. I predict death of F1 within 5 years!
    why watch then? You've had nothing but disregard for F1 for as long as you've been posting here. It'd be a relief not to read your uneducated/ill informed rants in F1 threads. But I guess you've got to get your attention (negative is better than nothing) somewhere.

    Do you care to wager something as to F1 dying with 5 years to back your, oh so uneducated, claims?

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