BlackPearl's V2 Build: The Steed and the 69 sxe

[E36Mylo]

Sick build. Good to see other people making power and keeping their AC! haha

[BlackPearlZ]

Check for power on red/white wire at TPS, it is pulled from the same splice. That splice is fed power via another splice that originates from the main relay. I can put the diagrams up here if need be.

I confirmed 12v at the injectors, so its a grounding issue.

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Sick build. Good to see other people making power and keeping their AC! haha

lol I want the car to be as stock like as possible, just faster. Working towards getting it there.

[BlackPearlZ]

I confirmed my tec3r is giving a signal. It has to be a bad ground somewhere. The tec3r only has one ground wire, and it is attached the same place it has always been. Thinking back, the last time I drove the car before I redid everything, it did the same thing, but it started right back up.

[exvitermini2]

Giving a signal in what way? If you have power to the injectors, and a pulsed ground signal to them, then it should be running.

[BlackPearlZ]

Issue resolved. Thank you for those who chimed in with ideas. It was something dumb and proved why you need to check the basics first. Map sensor was reading 11kpa with the vehicle. Broken wire going to the map sensor plug.

[BlackPearlZ]

I grabbed a quick video of a pull on wastegate spring. Need to add some, 12.9afr. E85 is nice lol

https://youtu.be/SY01KT3_vts

[hsvturbo]

I grabbed a quick video of a pull on wastegate spring. Need to add some, 12.9afr. E85 is nice lol

https://youtu.be/SY01KT3_vts

Congrats! First one to get the new steed up and running. Looks like an easy 600 to the wheels on WG with that 69 mm. Are you seeing any creep?

[BlackPearlZ]

Thanks. I can't comment on creep yet as that is the only pull I've done and only looked at the wideband.

I got my ac charged up this morning. Good news is my ac is cold as can be. Bad news is, my Compressor doesn't engage unless I give it 12v myself. I'm thinking probably a bad relay.

[crazyyardie]

Bad news is, my Compressor doesn't engage unless I give it 12v myself. I'm thinking probably a bad relay.

Ac pressure switch below headlight on ac drier



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[BlackPearlZ]

Ac pressure switch below headlight on ac drier

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Anyway I can test it?

[Iamthebull]

Jesus that pulls well. Grats man.

[BlackPearlZ]

I have a 2pm dyno appointment, wish me luck.

[e30kid89]

I have a 2pm dyno appointment, wish me luck.

Love how no time is wasted

#infortheresults

[BlackPearlZ]

Dyno was a flop. Was going lean after 6000rpm. I'm gonna check that both my pumps are running, but it may be time for some larger injectors. Creep was bad. 20psi creeping to 28psi. It doesnt creep on thr street though. Kind if strange. Car made 747whp with a 13afr. I think if I keep the wastegate closed until 28psi it'll make 800 pretty easy, with tons of tqs. I'll overlay the old graphs with today's.

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Here are a couple graphs with overlays, and boost traces. Temp today was 89*. For the 366 runs, it was 97*

[rajicase]

Nice !!! Definitely impressive vs the 366

[pbonsalb]

Each has advantages. I wonder how the 366 would have done with the twinscroll.

[Matutino]

2nd Steed Speed on the road and also has boost creep issues...hmmm.

[jajou318]

2nd Steed Speed on the road and also has boost creep issues...hmmm.

Whose is the other?

[pbonsalb]

I am on a EFR9180 now, with both internal and external WG. Absolutely no creep. Totally controllable. I can run 10 psi if I want. The 0.92 IWG EFR9180 on twinscroll steedspeed spools great, I like it, but dont have a dyno yet. 1.05 IWG EFR8374 had uncontrollable boost -- you would need the IWG 0.92 version with an external WG as well on the ts steed. I did not have much issue with the old open steed and the 1.05 EWG EFR8374, in comparison.

[rodw]

I am on a EFR9180 now, with both internal and external WG. Absolutely no creep. Totally controllable. I can run 10 psi if I want. The 0.92 IWG EFR9180 on twinscroll steedspeed spools great, I like it, but dont have a dyno yet. 1.05 IWG EFR8374 had uncontrollable boost -- you would need the IWG 0.92 version with an external WG as well on the ts steed. I did not have much issue with the old open steed and the 1.05 EWG EFR8374, in comparison.

How do you like the 9180 compared to your previous 8374? Performance-wise ..

[vollosso]

I think with boost control it will be a better comparison! Looks good though!


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[pbonsalb]

How do you like the 9180 compared to your previous 8374? Performance-wise ..

I never was able to properly experience the 8374 on the ts steed due to runaway boost. I drove it for only a few weeks, and could not get into it like I wanted. But on the open steed, it was a great turbo. Probably the fastest spooler in its class of 700 rwhp capable turbos. I would have kept it if it worked on the ts, but would have had to buy the IWG housing and decided instead to just buy an IWG 9180. The 9180, at least with the little 0.92 IWG housing, has great spool. I have no complaints. I don't feel like I am missing much over the 8374 though the 8374 is definitely a quicker spooler -- maybe so quick traction would be a real issue on an E36. I am on snows now, but am lighting up the tires with the 9180 anytime I put my foot down in 1st through 3rd. I need to get the racelogic installed.

[BlackPearlZ]

Keep in that the 69mm graphs have the wastegate opening at 15psi. So it's showing slower spool and less power than if I had a boost controller set to say 28psi.

I drove the car last night, it didn't seem to creep on the street. Not like that anyway. My afrs were good all the way to redline.

I would be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed. Before purchase I was told there could be a little creep, maybe 2-3psi, but this thing creeps worse than my 666 did. That was one of the reasons I switched my setup. I wanted to be able to run pump gas.

[hsvturbo]

Keep in that the 69mm graphs have the wastegate opening at 15psi. So it's showing slower spool and less power than if I had a boost controller set to say 28psi.

I drove the car last night, it didn't seem to creep on the street. Not like that anyway. My afrs were good all the way to redline.

I would be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed. Before purchase I was told there could be a little creep, maybe 2-3psi, but this thing creeps worse than my 666 did. That was one of the reasons I switched my setup. I wanted to be able to run pump gas.

Are you running a recirc WG or open? Can the current WG port be opened up any to increase efficiency? I believe the spa WG was always ported to help?..

[PEI330Ci]

Keep in that the 69mm graphs have the wastegate opening at 15psi. So it's showing slower spool and less power than if I had a boost controller set to say 28psi.

I drove the car last night, it didn't seem to creep on the street. Not like that anyway. My afrs were good all the way to redline.

I would be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed. Before purchase I was told there could be a little creep, maybe 2-3psi, but this thing creeps worse than my 666 did. That was one of the reasons I switched my setup. I wanted to be able to run pump gas.

Have you checked that your WG valve has unrestricted travel, and is opening properly?