Well I finally hopped on the dyno yesterday and am happy with the results although I know she had a little left in her.
Here's the summary of the trip to the dyno:
This is a dynocom (the dynojet was booked till next week, I know boohoo lol). My friend ran his na m3 on this dynocom and the local dynojet and got nearly identical results a few years back so it should be similar enough. A little reading on the Internets seemed to back that up as well.
I have a 1 bar spring in the gate with a cheap ball and spring type mbc on the car right now unfortunately so I know there's a bit of spool/ torque left on the table.
The first run it made 617whp and 612wtrq with the oporater pulling out at 6850. He did a run directly after that to 7100 but it was a little heat soaked and only made 612whp and 590wtrq (which for some reason is the sheet he gave me ). It was also in the 90's most of the day so that didn't help.
I then dumped 5 gallons of 100LL Avgas in for safety and slowly turned it up. We battled afr's a bit as we turned it up and she flowed so much more air but after a couple revisions we were able to tame them.
Once afr's were in check it made 718whp and 669wtrq at 23psi
Then the last run it made 730whp and 669wtrq with a short spike to 26 and settling at 25psi
I'm definitely happy with the result of my first trip to a dyno. I wish I had had a little more time to keep turning it up but I suppose there's always next time.
Honestly I'm most impressed with the torque this thing makes and how little back pressure the setup has. Being able to run 20psi on 92 octane without any knock is awesome! I really didn't expect to hit 600/600 on pump. The car is an absolute animal on the street and will be heart breaking to sell, but such is life.
And details about the car:
Motor:
S52 block bored out to 87mm and machined flat
Wiseco 87mm 8:5:1 Pistons with new Wiseco file fit piston rings
Eagle Rods
New oem main & rod bearings (standard thickness)
Arp 2000 rod, main and head studs
JE cutring head gasket
Supertech high temp valve seals
Stewart high flow water pump
New 88° thermostat
Aluminum t-stat housing
Aluminum water pump pulley
Rallyroad safety wired oil pump nut (red loctite used as well)
All new oem gaskets & seals top to bottom
M50 manifold
1" Gates hose dumped to atmosphere for the ccv
ZF310 transmission out of a 47k mile 95 m3 show car
Turbo kit:
Garrett GTW6765 turbo with t3 1.08ar open t3 housing
T3 Spa manifold with wastegate outlet bored out to 38mm and the transition blended smooth
Tial 38mm wastegate
Tial Q 50mm bov
ClutchMaster fx725 twin disk clutch with the race ceramic disks
80lb 22rpd obd2 blow-thru tune (with siemens deka 80lb injectors)
Walbro 450lph fuel pump (e85 compatible with Gates e85 compatible submersible fuel line) hardwired to the battery via a 40 amp relay (so that it has a constant 14v power supply at all times)
2.5" cold side ic piping, 3" hotside piping coated wrinkle black
31x12x4" front mount intercooler
3" downpipe
Vorshlag poly turbo motor mount with a poly akg mount on the drivers side
Akg poly transmission mounts
New oem guibo
Rallyroad turbo motor mount arm
CES aluminum elbow
AEM Failsafe wideband & boost gauge with data logging capabilities
-10an turbo oil drain with -10an bung welded to the oil pan
-4an stainless oil feed line
Other Various Modifications:
16" Spal electric fan
3-row all aluminum radiator
Samco silicone upper and lower radiator hoses
Bilstein struts with racing dynamics springs front & rear
Racing dynamics sway bars front and rear with poly mounts and adjustable end links
Poly front control arm bushings
Condor delrin rtabs
Stainless brake lines front and rear
Black vader interior
Oem zhp shift knob
Uuc evo 3 short shifter with their dual sheer selector rod
Kenwood cd player
Hid headlights
Euro clear corner lights and tail lights
Recovered headliner with sunroof delete
Ac schnitzer rear bumper diffuser
Ac schnitzer rear roof spoiler
Ltw wing
M3 side moldings, bumper, mirrors, door sills, vader seats front & rear, steering wheel (basically everything but the instrument cluster)
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I'll try and post some aem failsafe logs as well that show boost afr's etc. Their sensor kept falling out of the downpipe and since I had the failsafe hooked up and logging we just decided not to use it after the first few pulls
Whoever got you that GTW turbo must be a real nice guy.
Impressive numbers.
Should be easy 140 in the 1/4 on 100 octane. Looking forward to seeing it.
My next turbo will be a GTW.
But, after driving Phil's EFR car, it may not be. I want to see what he is doing at 20#'s on the strip. I've been wanting a gtw6265 for some time. Now maybe a gtw6465. If this precision ever fails.
1996 332IS
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CES/Steed TS Precision 6466, spraying a "$π!℅" load of meth.
Technique Tuning 80# tune.
1/4 mile 10.84 @ 136.72
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Haha thanks again for the hook up! Very stoked to hear that about the efr as that's the main reason I decided to drop this gtw kit into a car that I will be selling instead of keeping it on the acs widebody. I would love to throw the new steed into the widebody with an efr8374 strapped to it I hope he gives a full review of it compared to his gtx4088 and 35r soon.
The transit response from the EFR is stupid. I think that's what's going to make the biggest difference. When you shift and lay back into it, crazy things happen. He is spinning 275 drag radials. As for power, it pulls a little harder than his 35r did. Maybe a little more than a little.
I'm not 100% sure I would give up the 6466 for a 8374. I totally understand why he did for his driving habits. My playing is 90% on the freeway, where he has different habits. So, I don't feel the slower response as much as he does.
1996 332IS
Built 3.2
CES/Steed TS Precision 6466, spraying a "$π!℅" load of meth.
Technique Tuning 80# tune.
1/4 mile 10.84 @ 136.72
Your 1 and only stop for all your BMW performance needs
WWW.CESMOTORSPORT.COM
Based on Chelsea Denofa's dyno of the GTW he's now running, the DBB 6466 still out spools it and makes more power up top. As for the EFR, that should be MUCH more fun for a street car!
Impressive numbers! That housing/turbo size is pretty big/laggy, I'd imagine a 0.82 or 0.96 would've come on earlier. I'd be interested to see how this set-up would do on 100% e85 with bigger injectors.
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I would love to see how she responds to e85 and an electronic boost controller. Honestly on the street it doesn't feel very laggy, especially with the torque it's making. I've been getting 20psi by 4400 regularly. I'm sure the 6466 still outperforms it but then again you can't find them for under $1k brand new either.
Nice numbers, must be fun to drive although idk how you'd control that on street tires lol. Why do the pulls seem so short? Just cause it's reaching redline that fast?
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They poke out like 4" and ride height is questionably rakey.. lol
What gear were these runs done in ?
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Nice numbers! Sounds like a really short run though? What gear were the pulls done in and would you share the entire dyno sheet (w/ RPM on the bottom)?
Hit the strip on 100. Youll be kicked out real quick with that power. Should hit 140 for sure.
1996 332IS
Built 3.2
CES/Steed TS Precision 6466, spraying a "$π!℅" load of meth.
Technique Tuning 80# tune.
1/4 mile 10.84 @ 136.72
Your 1 and only stop for all your BMW performance needs
WWW.CESMOTORSPORT.COM
Excite!! Great numbers. I knew the 1.08ar housing would flow...
Can't wait to get mine+e85!
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Great Job!!
Spa t3 manifold. How did it fit ? Any pics. Sound like I found my next turbo.
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I forget this was T3. So maybe T3 1.08 is like T4 .82 ? Or T4 .XX?
1996 332IS
Built 3.2
CES/Steed TS Precision 6466, spraying a "$π!℅" load of meth.
Technique Tuning 80# tune.
1/4 mile 10.84 @ 136.72
Your 1 and only stop for all your BMW performance needs
WWW.CESMOTORSPORT.COM
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