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    MK hub cap tool?

    Is there a special tool for this fixing bolt for the MK hub caps?
    I can't seem to find anything at all. Will I be making my own?
    Cheers

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    I'd love to know this as well

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    yup its a T style handle with four prongs that fit into the indentations of the bolt head my car came with the mks and those locks for the hubcaps, and luckily the t wrench for them

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    this is the tool



    Its available here, along with bolts, seems common enough that they should be available in other places
    http://www.classicindustries.com/pro...s/k151792.html
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    Nice one ta!
    $20+shipping+import tax...May have a go at making one first, now I have some data to work with.
    Thanks gix

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    Quote Originally Posted by hognhominy View Post
    this is the tool



    Its available here, along with bolts, seems common enough that they should be available in other places
    http://www.classicindustries.com/pro...s/k151792.html
    Initial appearance is nearly identical to oem MK T-Handle, however are the three silver prongs spaced identical
    to the oem T-Handle?
    Have you actually inserted the Firebird T-Handle in a MK center cap bolt?

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    The system was common enough that I have seen it several times all with the same spacing.

    I have used the same tool on Borbet supplied bolts, Ronal supplied bolts, Rial supplied bolts, Prime supplied bolts. IIRC the OE Pontiac wheels were produced by Ronal.

    This would lead me to believe that the bolts and tool were supplied by a 3rd party to the wheel manufacturers and were designed to be a passive deterrent and not an individually unique lock and key system.

    Edit:
    The "R15" wheel is in fact a Ronal model R15




    MK Motorsports was not the manufacturer of their MK branded wheels, they were produced by Ronal.

    It would not be a huge leap to assume that bolts supplied with Ronal made Pontiac wheels will be the same as the bolts supplied with Ronal made MK Motorsports wheels
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    Quote Originally Posted by hognhominy View Post
    The system was common enough that I have seen it several times all with the same spacing.

    I have used the same tool on Borbet supplied bolts, Ronal supplied bolts, Rial supplied bolts, Prime supplied bolts. IIRC the OE Pontiac wheels were produced by Ronal.

    This would lead me to believe that the bolts and tool were supplied by a 3rd party to the wheel manufacturers and were designed to be a passive deterrent and not an individually unique lock and key system.

    Thank you. Your logic is very sound, however I still pose the question, "Has anyone ever actually inserted this T-Handle in a MK center cap bolt?".
    Last edited by ATA197; 05-30-2015 at 05:55 PM. Reason: One word short

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    Quote Originally Posted by hognhominy View Post
    Its available here, along with bolts, seems common enough that they should be available in other places
    http://www.classicindustries.com/pro...s/k151792.html

    Thx for the info....I may be getting a set of MK's in the near future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATA197 View Post
    Thank you. Your logic is very sound, however I still pose the question, "Has anyone ever actually inserted this T-Handle in a MK center cap bolt?".
    I have not personally possessed MK wheels.

    Also this pic is from a listing of a NIB set of Ronal wheels showing how they were supplied with the wheel.


    In looking for information, I found a post indicating that someone was able to remove the bolt using needlenose pliers inserted into two of the holes, and then clamping the pliers with a pair of vicegrip locking pliers. If you were wanting to remove them and replace with more common Socket head cap screws.

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    Complete kit 4x screws and a tool 12£

    http://www.tunershop.co.uk/BORBET_A_...x_p221012.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by hognhominy View Post
    I have not personally possessed MK wheels.

    Also this pic is from a listing of a NIB set of Ronal wheels showing how they were supplied with the wheel.


    In looking for information, I found a post indicating that someone was able to remove the bolt using needlenose pliers inserted into two of the holes, and then clamping the pliers with a pair of vicegrip locking pliers. If you were wanting to remove them and replace with more common Socket head cap screws.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Complete kit 4x screws and a tool 12£

    http://www.tunershop.co.uk/BORBET_A_...x_p221012.html

    Aha, and therein lies the misunderstanding......
    I'm sorry....I currently have the oem T-Handle for my MK's of ten years. My constant concern is misplacing it and not having a spare.
    The tunerShop Center cap screw set pictured feature three equi distant slots for the T-Handle. The slots in the oem
    MK center cap screw have three unevenly spaced slots. Hence my original question regarding the actual fitment of
    the Pontiac T-Handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e31gixxxer View Post
    Is there a special tool for this fixing bolt for the MK hub caps?
    I can't seem to find anything at all. Will I be making my own?
    Cheers

    Is this the original bolt that came with MK's when purchased new? I got a baggy with the center cap bolts when I purchased my MK1's but none except one looks like this. The key included is also not for this figure. If this is the original bolt I'd like to get a set.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaifanSC View Post
    Is this the original bolt that came with MK's when purchased new? I got a baggy with the center cap bolts when I purchased my MK1's but none except one looks like this. The key included is also not for this figure. If this is the original bolt I'd like to get a set.

    Thanks
    Yes, it is certainly the original bolt. When purchased they, along with the appropriate T-Handle, accompanyed my MK1's.
    We owners of MK1's are apparently seeking the proverbial "hen's teeth" when it comes to replacement center caps, bolts and T-Handles.
    Judicious use and careful storage are MK1 ownership prerequisites. Good luck with your search.

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    Sweet...quick follow up question, does the original MK1 t-handle tool have any special markings or branding? Or is it plain black like the one above. I may just end up getting that kit above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaifanSC View Post
    Sweet...quick follow up question, does the original MK1 t-handle tool have any special markings or branding? Or is it plain black like the one above. I may just end up getting that kit above.
    Physically it is identical, no markings or branding. Only difference is the unevenly spaced silver posts corresponding with the MK center cap, specific bolt patterns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaifanSC View Post
    Is this the original bolt that came with MK's when purchased new? I got a baggy with the center cap bolts when I purchased my MK1's but none except one looks like this. The key included is also not for this figure. If this is the original bolt I'd like to get a set.

    Thanks
    I sent you a PM regarding your one OEM MK1 bolt. Did you receive it. If so I shall wait for you response.
    Thanks

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    [QUOTE] The slots in the oem
    MK center cap screw have three unevenly spaced slots. Hence my original question regarding the actual fitment of
    the Pontiac T-Handle.[QUOTE]




    Correct, measured between hole centres, there is 1mm difference between each of the three readings.




    just change them out for ss pan heads with allen socket.......

    This is my kind of fix

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    Got your PM, will reply
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    Found these by chance while looking for some unrelated wheel cover bolts, look very close and very cheep.




    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2526753782...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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