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Thread: 128 vs 135, will a regret it???

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    I remember that article. That's what set me on the path to thinking a 1 might be my best bet.

    Especially after I did the math on my 120 mile round trip commute after I move ... not the kind of mileage I want to pay for an M car with or risk looking at a turbo rebuild after only 4 years.
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    I didn't know the engine had that many problems. Are they fixed in the new single turbo motor? I am fan of the straight 6 BMW motors, they do it well.

    The 328i is a summer toy, had it since new and not replacing it with the 1. My summer dd is a 07 g35. I like the power but to many rattles and noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesguitar View Post
    No one's mentioned Miller's excellent article in Roundel on the 128i (last fall I think), he does a really nice job looking at the strengths and weaknesses compared with the 135. After reading that and with the reliability issues surfacing with the 135, I've got my eye on a 128 for sure. Granted it's not gonna pull like the 135 off the line or in the left lane, but the likelihood of a better overall ownership experience seems high...
    Could you provide a link please? Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gray67 View Post
    Could you provide a link please? Thank you!
    http://roundel.imirus.com/Mpowered/book/vrd10/i7/p46
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    I drove the 128 and liked it. I checked out some of the other brands and was having a hard time making up my mind. Then I test drove the 135. Five minutes into the test drive I knew what to do. 14K miles on it now and it still brings a smile to my face when I punch it.

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    if your worried about what the 135 motor could bring with potential problems..i am sure with some of the money saved you could make the 128 pretty fun to drive doing intake/exhaust etc maybe not be as fast but i am sure will bump up the fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSangavaramM3 View Post
    the 128's weight and power is on par w/the e36 m3 and that car was WAY fun to drive.

    i am considering a toy this summer, and really want to get into an 09 135, but the realist in me doesn't want all teh headaches of a n54 motor.
    I came from a supercharged/intercooled E36 M3.. I chose the 135i because I felt the new 3 series has become, sizewise, more like a 5 series such as it was at the time I bought the M3. The 135i is a a little heavier and a little wider, but its also a hair shorter, so sizewise, it is similar to the E36... more similar than any new 3 series.. however, how can you claim the power is on par? The E36 M3 had 240 hp and 236 ft lbs.. The 135i is conservatively rated at 60 more hp and 64 more ft lbs trq. Thats really not very similar, and I will add that having driven both, the 135i blows the doors off a stock E36 M3 in acceleration capabilities. Car mag tests show the E36 M3 0-60 somewhere averaging around 5.6 sec; the 135i usually comes up with a number like 4.7 sec. So powerwise, its really not a good comparo at all with the stock e36 M3.
    Last edited by paul e; 02-01-2011 at 04:01 PM.
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    i dont own either but for the few thousand more id go with the 135 for sure
    and i know i would regret it, personally

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheFence View Post
    Can someone summarize the reliability reputation issues of the 135i ?
    Ive only got about 18k miles on mine, but its been clear sailing, ie, not a single thing has needed repair or unusual service. Some of the N54s had issues with the High Pressure fuel pump as you probably know, but my N55 has been really solid.. I was getting itchy to replace it earlier this year as Ive had it now since Nov. 2010. However with so little miles I wanted to hang on, and getting a deal on the M Performance Power kit from my dealer was just the ticket... That really did add the needed increase in the power which was enough to stave off my intention of replacing it with an m240i... Of course, if youre planning a more encompassing tune, more power to you.. But the car is solid.
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    after recalls years ago I've not had any problems, but I only have a little over 60k on my 2008 now
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheFence View Post
    Can someone summarize the reliability reputation issues of the 135i ?
    check out 1addicts.com; they have a sticky on the subject.

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    I've had my '11 128 for over 1 year now (manual, sport package). The previous BMW before that was a 330ci with (manual, sport package). Honestly, while I have been "spanked" by a couple of S4's, the 128 can hold its own, and completely stock and crappy tires, kept up with much "faster" cars at my most recent DE. I purchased the car for $16K with 45k miles, and CPO for 1 year. When I looked for a comparable 135, I could not even touch it without spending an additional $5K. (Un)fortunately, BMW had done tons of work under the CPO and SULEV warranties, so I guess I technically have a fairly new car now for a very low cost. Personally, I never regret not getting the 135 as I feel the car is plenty powerful and fun to drive. I like seeing the extra money in my savings account, and trust me, I am an auto enthusiast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodMN View Post
    I thinking of replacing my g35 with a 1. I found a great deal on a 128 that has a manual gearbox and everything I want. I think I really want the 135 for the power but the 128 deal seems to tough to pass up. So will I regret getting the 128? Do those who have a 128i feel shorted????
    You will 100% regret it. Especially coming from a G35. I bought a 128i in December 2015 for a great deal. November 2016 I traded it in and got a 335i (I couldn't find any good 135i's for the great price I got the 335 for). The 128i was a blast to drive but everyday I found myself wishing I had more power. Do yourself a favor and get a 135i.
    as for the reliability, the N51/n52 in the 128i is far more reliable
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    I believe that 3L in the 135 is an inline 6 as well.
    question is whether the turbo has longevity, or, like a great artist, dies too soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by V8TBirds View Post
    I believe that 3L in the 135 is an inline 6 as well.
    question is whether the turbo has longevity, or, like a great artist, dies too soon!

    It has longevity. You didnt mention a model year, but especially the N55 is an awesome engine that's served a load of models for several years. Even the M2 is using it.
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